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Old Apr 3, 2011 | 02:58 PM
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clutch knock ?

hi , whats the most common cause of a knocking in the clutch on the hawk ?

completely goes when pulled in , its pretty bad , but operates normally (for a superhawk )

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Old Apr 3, 2011 | 07:21 PM
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i believe thats do to improperly balanced carbs. something to do with the way the cylinders fire, one will play catch up and cause the plates to chatter. had the same problem with my srad, carb sync got rid of it.
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can someone descibe this? does this happen on take off or stand still?
Old Apr 4, 2011 | 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by nykuryu
i believe thats do to improperly balanced carbs. something to do with the way the cylinders fire, one will play catch up and cause the plates to chatter. had the same problem with my srad, carb sync got rid of it.
Well, since it goes away when pulling in the clutch, it's most defenitely the clutch, not the carbs...

I'd start by checking the clutch springs, if they are worn you get noise... It takes some effort to damage the clutch on a VTR, but it's entirely possible to mess up the cluthc basket if you work at it a bit...

BTW, nykuryu... The slides on the VTR carbs usually clatter a bit at idle or barely of idle... That's really nothing that a carbsync can change since it's down to the mere size of the things (Those carbs are big, really big for CV carbs on bikes)... But having said that, you really cant sync your carbs to many times...
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Originally Posted by Tweety
Well, since it goes away when pulling in the clutch, it's most defenitely the clutch, not the carbs...

I'd start by checking the clutch springs, if they are worn you get noise... It takes some effort to damage the clutch on a VTR, but it's entirely possible to mess up the cluthc basket if you work at it a bit...

BTW, nykuryu... The slides on the VTR carbs usually clatter a bit at idle or barely of idle... That's really nothing that a carbsync can change since it's down to the mere size of the things (Those carbs are big, really big for CV carbs on bikes)... But having said that, you really cant sync your carbs to many times...
good to know . but like i said that was with my srad, a different bike.
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recent ebc kevlar kit , had a look at the basket didnt notice anything to bad ,

better pull it out when i get the time and make sure its all in the right order , just wondered if there was a typical hawk cause for a knock on tickover in neutrel goes completely when held in and its a typical storm clutch to use , before i pull the case
Old Apr 5, 2011 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by motokraft
recent ebc kevlar kit , had a look at the basket didnt notice anything to bad ,

better pull it out when i get the time and make sure its all in the right order , just wondered if there was a typical hawk cause for a knock on tickover in neutrel goes completely when held in and its a typical storm clutch to use , before i pull the case
Yeah there is no common "clutch noise".

What type of oil are you running in the bike? Just asking because I have heard ( I haven't run one myself) that they can be picky about what type of oil you run ( If I remember correctly, they don't like synthetics)
Old Apr 5, 2011 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 8541Hawk
Yeah there is no common "clutch noise".

What type of oil are you running in the bike? Just asking because I have heard ( I haven't run one myself) that they can be picky about what type of oil you run ( If I remember correctly, they don't like synthetics)
castrol race , cant remember more , race motor , ill check everythings in the right order and there and i suppose the conical piece could be back in wrong or something , ah sure , not to worry ,
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I had this problem many years ago... As I remember the VTR had ~12k-15k mi. Turned out to be a clutch basket or clutch basket bearing (sorry but I can't remember exactly). The dealer's service department had never seen the problem B4. Kinda sounded like a rod knock, but it went away when the clutch was pulled it.

The dealer tried to warranty it for me, but Honda wouldn't cooperate.
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Originally Posted by RonVTR
I had this problem many years ago... As I remember the VTR had ~12k-15k mi. Turned out to be a clutch basket or clutch basket bearing (sorry but I can't remember exactly). The dealer's service department had never seen the problem B4. Kinda sounded like a rod knock, but it went away when the clutch was pulled it.

The dealer tried to warranty it for me, but Honda wouldn't cooperate.
thanks ron , the engines perfect but it would sound similar to a big end alright , only a little less deep

think thats possibly what were dealin with ,,
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