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SuperBike
Joined: Jan 2008
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From: Beaverton, OR

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SuperBike
Joined: Jan 2008
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From: Beaverton, OR

I could use a little help... I can get the bike started but it won't stay running. I can start with choke and some throttle it will run for a second or two then die. I previously had the bike running for a few minutes prior to taking everything apart for the build. That was after I had cleaned the carbs. Now I didn't touch the carbs since and cannot get it to idle. Any ideas. All four carbs are getting gas. I haven't checked the points, but like I said before it ran well before I tore down for paint. Number 4 cylinder sometimes after it dies blows a little bit of smoke back out through the intake. Frustrating, help would be appreciated, thanks.
Check the plugs to see if it is fouling out. Also, if the bike has points and they are closed up then you should take care of that first. If the bike ran well before I would start with the simple stuff, ground connections, plug wires, correct plugs (as well as correct gap), properly set points, etc.
Have you tried bumping up the idle air adjustment to see if it will stay running?
Have you tried bumping up the idle air adjustment to see if it will stay running?
Cornandp,
We have seen on multiple occasions where carbs that we have cleaned have sat and the residue, however little it may seem, from the cleaners clogged the rediculously small pilots that honda uses. I would suggest that as a start point. We were also drilling almost all late 70's and all 80's bikes to an #80 drill for the pilots. We than could use the fuel screw to adjust the running. To follow up, I would check the points.
We have seen on multiple occasions where carbs that we have cleaned have sat and the residue, however little it may seem, from the cleaners clogged the rediculously small pilots that honda uses. I would suggest that as a start point. We were also drilling almost all late 70's and all 80's bikes to an #80 drill for the pilots. We than could use the fuel screw to adjust the running. To follow up, I would check the points.
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SuperBike
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I only know because we clean so many carbs. If we have a bike that needs engine work along with carb cleaning, it is worthless to fill in the time of waiting for parts with cleaning the carbs as they gum up within a few days.
As for drilling, you can get the little drills at the hardware store. #80 and go to 3 turns, that should be pretty good. Where are you for turns now? 3.5-4? I would have to suspect with your exhaust and the uni/K&N filters that you are already at that point. Turns past this will result in no additional fuel, and lost fuel screws.
Good Luck, and keep me updated.
As for drilling, you can get the little drills at the hardware store. #80 and go to 3 turns, that should be pretty good. Where are you for turns now? 3.5-4? I would have to suspect with your exhaust and the uni/K&N filters that you are already at that point. Turns past this will result in no additional fuel, and lost fuel screws.
Good Luck, and keep me updated.
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SuperBike
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Thanks for the info auto, I will keep you updated as I come accross issues, since I haven't riden it yet I will know more in a week or two. I am planning on getting it put back together tomorrow since my front tire came in. I will have a better video of it for tomorrow as well. I may have trouble sleeping tonight...
I am definitely in the lose sleep category as I've had the chance to be up close and personal with this project. The sound alone drives me nuts. I've suggested that he call it the TOMAHAWK 500.
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I will ride her even if its it only the distance of the shop, maybe I will get lucky and it won't rain.
Tomahawk is too manly... I will give her a name once one comes to me (usually after a bit of riding). Just look at bootleg, took him 12k miles to come up with a name for his bike.
Tomahawk is too manly... I will give her a name once one comes to me (usually after a bit of riding). Just look at bootleg, took him 12k miles to come up with a name for his bike.
I wouldn't name a lightly modified street bike, but a custom job lice cornandp has deserves a name. Could you call it a CB500? If someone asked you what it was, would it be considered a Honda? I would have a hard time calling it a Honda CB500, it doesn't do the amount of work justice. Would I name my superhawk?, absolutely not.
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The naming thing for me is because with some bikes you have more of a connection. We name boats and the likes, so I don't find it too weird. Anyways, just wanted to report back. The weight of the bike is... 363 lbs dry for a total drop in weight of 40 lbs. Not too bad on a bike that was pretty basic to begin with. The wheels kill the weight department at 30 lbs each. More to come later today.
The naming thing for me is because with some bikes you have more of a connection. We name boats and the likes, so I don't find it too weird. Anyways, just wanted to report back. The weight of the bike is... 363 lbs dry for a total drop in weight of 40 lbs. Not too bad on a bike that was pretty basic to begin with. The wheels kill the weight department at 30 lbs each. More to come later today.
32lbs wheels. When I replaced the steel wheels with aluminum on my '62' Norton Atlas, it was a different bike in terms of everything accel, decel, turning, comfort, and appearance. The best upgrade for sure.
Awesome machine you put together there partner.
Nice! You could always change the music in your video to something more suiting, it sounded like wedding music.
On another note, you could always lace up some excels, or do a complete excel setup and go with a disc brake in the rear
On another note, you could always lace up some excels, or do a complete excel setup and go with a disc brake in the rear
GREAT JOB Corn ! Just wanted to say congrats on the beautiful build !
I started a cafe racer build about a month ago in my limited spare time , stumbled across this thread and been watching you since. You have done an excellent job with the fabrication and have inspired me to slow down and put mine together properly.
I will be posting my build this weekend , so if any are interested , feel free to check me out . I will start a thread this weekend .
I started a cafe racer build about a month ago in my limited spare time , stumbled across this thread and been watching you since. You have done an excellent job with the fabrication and have inspired me to slow down and put mine together properly.
I will be posting my build this weekend , so if any are interested , feel free to check me out . I will start a thread this weekend .














. Next time I will have the bike running so you won't be able to hear anything else