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THE LANE CARVER
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I just got lucky with a bit of spending cash. What are some of the best upgrades I can do with a troug estimate of price? I want to run better with the cbr1000's if I can. Thx
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lightweight flywheel, fork brace, front brakes (braided lines, decent pads and an MC and calipers from an F4i), and some suspension work (notably the forks; contact Jamie D on the site and he can set you up for forks and a shock too). Depending on where you ride, you can possibly adjust your gearing too. Replacing the short intake trumpet on the front cylinder with a second long one will give a noticeable bump in low-end and mids too. Lots more you can do too, it all depends on how much you are willing to spend
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Bottom line, you're not going to be keeping up with modern I4 1k's in a straight line. Biggest bang for buck is to go on a diet, lol! Both you and the bike.
That being said, first thing I'd do is get the forks sprung for your weight and revalved. And set sag front and rear.
That being said, first thing I'd do is get the forks sprung for your weight and revalved. And set sag front and rear.
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Are you starting with a stock bike?
The number one thing you could do is rider training. An expert rider on a small bike can outrun good riders on faster bikes. I would recommend not racing on the street though. Not a good path to go down.
Consider doing a track day or race school.
On the bike itself the mods listed above but a cbr fork swap does wonders for handling as does a Penske shock
The number one thing you could do is rider training. An expert rider on a small bike can outrun good riders on faster bikes. I would recommend not racing on the street though. Not a good path to go down.
Consider doing a track day or race school.
On the bike itself the mods listed above but a cbr fork swap does wonders for handling as does a Penske shock
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Judging by the question I'm assuming you mean in a straight line and if that's the case save yourself the aggravation (along with the money), sell the bike and buy something faster. Or you can drop 5 grand on an engine build to pick up 10-15 hp and you're still gonna get waxed just about as bad as before. You can upgrade the brakes and the suspension and do some stuff to pick up a little more power but if you're looking to run with modern 4 cyl. liter bikes anywhere but in the turns (and that's completely dependent on your skill level) you're missing the point of a Superhawk and bought the wrong bike.
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Tell us where, how you want to " run better with the cbr1000's" It wont really happen Bike to bike....but we might tell you where you can see some gains.
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Long time fire my reply, my only chance at ever beating/running with I4s is on a track with the twists. SH's are great City bikes bc if the twin torque power. I was beating many riders simply bc I push harder than them do even tho my bike is inferior. I'm thinking of making it a track bike mostly.
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Judging by the question I'm assuming you mean in a straight line and if that's the case save yourself the aggravation (along with the money), sell the bike and buy something faster. Or you can drop 5 grand on an engine build to pick up 10-15 hp and you're still gonna get waxed just about as bad as before. You can upgrade the brakes and the suspension and do some stuff to pick up a little more power but if you're looking to run with modern 4 cyl. liter bikes anywhere but in the turns (and that's completely dependent on your skill level) you're missing the point of a Superhawk and bought the wrong bike.
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I am running a new motor and on my old motor which is sitting on the workbench has in it the factory pro shift kit. I miss it very much and will someday soon take it out and put it in the new motor. I am not so sure of the Kevlar clutch that I installed with only 600 miles on it but seems funky at times.
So long story shorted up waiting until my decision on the clutch until I do the swap as I might swap the clutch at the same time. also why you are in there you might as well put the ignition advance in.
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More power, control and safety due to stronger brakes.
Stronger brakes mean wider area of impending lock up more control of stops.
100% worth the mod since you sell your brakes to make up cost. Only better improvement is a whole cbr front end.
Stronger brakes mean wider area of impending lock up more control of stops.
100% worth the mod since you sell your brakes to make up cost. Only better improvement is a whole cbr front end.
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I understand, but what makes the difference between the front calipers on the VTR vs the ones on the F4i? They seem quite similar, both Nissin, both 4 cylinders per caliper... could it be that the f4i calipers pistons have a greater surface? If so, could you tell what are the actual numbers?
Don't get me wrong, it's not that I don't trust your expertise, but Ilike need to know how and why stuff works the way it does 
Already got a new set of steel braided lines waiting to be installed, those alone (and surely, new fluid) will probably give a big improvement.
Don't get me wrong, it's not that I don't trust your expertise, but I
Already got a new set of steel braided lines waiting to be installed, those alone (and surely, new fluid) will probably give a big improvement.
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I understand, but what makes the difference between the front calipers on the VTR vs the ones on the F4i? They seem quite similar, both Nissin, both 4 cylinders per caliper... could it be that the f4i calipers pistons have a greater surface? If so, could you tell what are the actual numbers?
Don't get me wrong, it's not that I don't trust your expertise, but Ilike need to know how and why stuff works the way it does
Already got a new set of steel braided lines waiting to be installed, those alone (and surely, new fluid) will probably give a big improvement.
Don't get me wrong, it's not that I don't trust your expertise, but I
Already got a new set of steel braided lines waiting to be installed, those alone (and surely, new fluid) will probably give a big improvement.
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