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Last summer my vtr jumped time and ate the front intake valves. Flash forward and I’ve purchased a used engine to install, with yosh cams and new tensioners, but when I removed the tensioners, both of them were missing the pad/cap that Honda shows in the parts diagram. On my blown engine, the front was missing but the rear was there. Anyone else have experience with them not being there from the factory or have I purchased a sh*t motor?
They can get stuck when the tensioner gets pulled. Or a PO forgot to put them on when installing CCTS. Shine a torch down the hole / check the oil pan.
They can get stuck when the tensioner gets pulled. Or a PO forgot to put them on when installing CCTS. Shine a torch down the hole / check the oil pan.
I shined a light down before ever pulling them. Not there. Ordered them on eBay today, local Honda shop is pretty slow on getting parts.
I don’t like manual tensioners on a street bike, require to much adjustment. If these were easier to get to like a modern 4 banger then maybe, but still probably unlikely.
Your welcome to not like them, but your greatly mistaken for your reasoning.
38k on my 1998 never need to adjust them, 36,328 miles on my 2001 no need to adjust them. and on the other 5 or 6 dozen VTR's I have installed them on they have not needed adjustment.
Add in the few hundred other bikes I've installed MCCT's on and they did not need routine adjustment other than at top end or full rebuild. I think I have a fair bit of personal and professional experience that seems to differ from your cited reasoning.
To each his own, do what works for you.
BTW, keep an eye on part outs or ebay for a front head ...your going to need it running ACCT's
Your welcome to not like them, but your greatly mistaken for your reasoning.
38k on my 1998 never need to adjust them, 36,328 miles on my 2001 no need to adjust them. and on the other 5 or 6 dozen VTR's I have installed them on they have not needed adjustment.
Add in the few hundred other bikes I've installed MCCT's on and they did not need routine adjustment other than at top end or full rebuild. I think I have a fair bit of personal and professional experience that seems to differ from your cited reasoning.
To each his own, do what works for you.
BTW, keep an eye on part outs or ebay for a front head ...your going to need it running ACCT's
i got 63k on acct’s, with 3 years of strictly track use.
I installed manual tensioner on my cbr and it needed adjustment every 10k or so. I ride that or more per year.
Last summer my vtr jumped time and ate the front intake valves.
Originally Posted by G6tech
i got 63k on acct’s, with 3 years of strictly track use.
I installed manual tensioner on my cbr and it needed adjustment every 10k or so. I ride that or more per year.
Seems you have more CCT failures using ACCTs then I have on my personal VTR's or those I work on running MCCTs
To each his own, do what works for you..
Id rather lose a repair job and help a customer keep their bike running then hold information that can save them time and money. And the same goes for sharing info here.
If you understand they commonly fail, that its a known issue and that manuals dont fail (improper install of them does cause failure ), and rarely if ever need adjustment in normal use...That said, if you want to use ACCT's, well to each his own, I do wish you many trouble free miles.
I don't know Eric, I put MCCT's in my SH 5 years and 35800 hard miles ago and I had to adjust them every....., er…..NEVER!. I used the cam covers off, 5 -6 mm play with 5# of pressure way of setting them up (VTR1000.org). When I replaced mine with some ETL's (camchaintensioners.com/uk)(because I like how they're made, seal, Etc.)they had an additional .5mm play using the same method. In G6tech's defense I have two SH buddies that had differing experiences. Both using fastidious maintenance and high quality oils. One has a '99 and the other an '00. One, the '00, had catastrophic CCT failure at 19k miles the other was using the originals at 42k miles with no problems. Now he has my old Kriegers for piece of mine. As Clint Eastwood said "Do you feel lucky?"
Last edited by CaryDG; May 4, 2020 at 07:55 PM.
Reason: typo
Thank you all for helping me answer my question, and for the indoctrination. After removing the oil pan, the caps were not in there, so I'm assuming the previous owner left them out, or Honda never installed them.
Here's a pic of my springs that have been cryo treated and coated with a transition coating to reduce the thermal effect on the spring while baking in the engine:
And here's link to a vid of a guy who re-adjusts his accts in his VFR from time to time as part of maintenance:
