Rear stand recommendation.
03-15-2010, 12:34 PM
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Well Pit Bulls are the best stands I have used and would only use their front stands. The rear stands they have are also very nice but you can use just about any stand that you are comfortable that the bike won't fall off of.
If you find a stand that is really cheap, there usually is a reason for it (cheap or light weight materials) so just go buy a pit bull and get it over with
If you find a stand that is really cheap, there usually is a reason for it (cheap or light weight materials) so just go buy a pit bull and get it over with
03-15-2010, 04:19 PM
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I have a Lockhart Phillips and some cheap no-name thing. They both do the job but the LP is far superior. Better wheels, better pads, lighter, and the different construction makes it easier to use by youself. It mainly comes down to how much you want to spend.
03-15-2010, 04:51 PM
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How much are you using it? Just on the Hawk or several bikes? For just periodic lubing the chain or for significant work? finally what do you want to spend?
I have this one http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=99701 with the paddles
my local Harbor freight had it for $40 and with paddles and a 20% off coupons I got out the door pretty cheap.
I have this one http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=99701 with the paddles
my local Harbor freight had it for $40 and with paddles and a 20% off coupons I got out the door pretty cheap.
03-16-2010, 05:55 AM
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I ended up buying a set of black widows from discount ramps. http://www.discountramps.com/rear-motorcycle-stand.htm
They work good & the price wasn't to bad. Plus they showed them on a Superhawk. I'm a sucker for advertising.
They work good & the price wasn't to bad. Plus they showed them on a Superhawk. I'm a sucker for advertising.
03-16-2010, 08:28 AM
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Have this Harbor Freight stand and am pretty happy with it:
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=66192
Can't beat the price... even when you add the front fork adapters.
The T-Rex stands do look nice though.
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=66192
Can't beat the price... even when you add the front fork adapters.
The T-Rex stands do look nice though.
05-15-2010, 07:02 PM
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How much are you using it? Just on the Hawk or several bikes? For just periodic lubing the chain or for significant work? finally what do you want to spend?
I have this one http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=99701 with the paddles
my local Harbor freight had it for $40 and with paddles and a 20% off coupons I got out the door pretty cheap.
I have this one http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=99701 with the paddles
my local Harbor freight had it for $40 and with paddles and a 20% off coupons I got out the door pretty cheap.
Thesed are awesome little stands for the price. I have a couple on different bikes and they seem sturdy as any other,of course I use them on the Hawk with spools, can't say how they sit with paddles under SA. I have these , pitbulls,LP,T Rex, Vortex and they seem to work just as good as any. Only problem I ever had was the wheels they use are pretty soft, but I spent like $5 for a set of semi hard roller blade wheels and they have had a heavy Busa sitting on them for 6 months straight with no flat spots. I even took a tube style LP stand spread it open and retweaked bottom runners in at front so it would be wide enough to fit around a 300 tire.
Besides just look in most bike mags and you'll find Harbor Freight coupon page and most always there is a 20% off single item coupon. Use that on the stand and it ends up being $32.00 pl/tx . Can't beat it.
Jusy my .02
05-15-2010, 07:28 PM
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i have the trex's front and rear and with a triple tree front adapter. theyre pretty good, id rate them A-. theyre really solid, except theyre a 2 piece design so they tend to get a little "loose" later in their life. it is nice however because its much easier to break them down flat for transport or taking to the track with limited space (theyre a PITA to fit in a trunk or back seat).
pitbulls are realllllllly nice and solid, but at the expense of more difficult to transport.
the bigger issue for the rear i would say is that you should adapt some spools some how. the rubber to swingarm just isnt all that great imo. spools make lifting the bike a hell of a lot easier and more stable.
ive also seen the HF rear stands in person, they look very very very solid
pitbulls are realllllllly nice and solid, but at the expense of more difficult to transport.
the bigger issue for the rear i would say is that you should adapt some spools some how. the rubber to swingarm just isnt all that great imo. spools make lifting the bike a hell of a lot easier and more stable.
ive also seen the HF rear stands in person, they look very very very solid
05-15-2010, 08:49 PM
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Poor man's rear spools
05-16-2010, 04:12 AM
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I made this... https://www.superhawkforum.com/forum...11&postcount=1
Lifts at the engine bolts, so you only need one... You can remove front and rear wheel and suspension with this and a small support under the sump...
Lifts at the engine bolts, so you only need one... You can remove front and rear wheel and suspension with this and a small support under the sump...
05-16-2010, 07:33 AM
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Well I have a Trackside one and yruyur has the Harbor Freight one (steel not the aluminum one). His is flimsy and shaky in comparison, and a bit too small for the SH (short enough that it takes a lot of effort to lift the bike). Where as mine is easy to use and much more sturdy. But for the $$ the HF one is hard to argue with.
05-16-2010, 09:02 AM
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tweety, damn that's a sweet friggin' stand (i say sweet because of how it works) i' been intending to use a steel bar + jack stands to life the bike and unload the rear suspension, but axle pivot isnt large enough to get more than 1/4" piece of steel through there (this is on my rc51)
have woodcraft rearsets, but the exhaust is in the way.
you stand looks perfect for that kind of job!
have woodcraft rearsets, but the exhaust is in the way.
you stand looks perfect for that kind of job!
05-16-2010, 10:11 AM
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It is perfect... It's easy to use on my own, and with very little effort I have had both the swingarm and the forks dismounted at the same time...
I didn't come up with the idea myself, I copied this http://www.werner-staender.de/wernerDVD.mpg
It's easy to use on my own, and with very little effort I have had both the swingarm and the forks dismounted at the same time...I didn't come up with the idea myself, I copied this http://www.werner-staender.de/wernerDVD.mpg
05-16-2010, 11:56 AM
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Using a classic rearstand that either lifts on spools or pads at the swingarm you have two options... Either put it in place, lift the bike of the sidestand while either standing far back on the side of the bike, and put a foot on the stand (check that nothing has slipped) and push down... Or stand behind the bike balancing it with your hands on the rear of the bike (walk around it from lifting it of the stand...) and then aim and lift it on the stand...
Off the stand, lift the rear part of the stand til the wheel comes down, put a hand on the bike and balance it... Drop the stand and walk around the bike to the side and get it down on the sidestand...
The reason I don't like a normal rear stand is that potential slip&drop moment where you have to balance the bike to get the stand in place... Doing it on your own is a bit awkward at best and nerv-wracking at first...
With the stan I built you stand by the side of the bike the whole time, both hands on the handlebars... Hook it too the bike, and it almost balances itself once you lift it off the sidestand... Then just use your foot to lift it... Off the stand is just as easy... One foot behind the stand, one hand on each handlebar, a short yank back-up and walk the bike backwards till the wheel touches, tilt the stand forward to let the bike down on the sidestand... In no part do you have to balance the bike with one hand and a stand with the other...
Off the stand, lift the rear part of the stand til the wheel comes down, put a hand on the bike and balance it... Drop the stand and walk around the bike to the side and get it down on the sidestand...
The reason I don't like a normal rear stand is that potential slip&drop moment where you have to balance the bike to get the stand in place... Doing it on your own is a bit awkward at best and nerv-wracking at first...
With the stan I built you stand by the side of the bike the whole time, both hands on the handlebars... Hook it too the bike, and it almost balances itself once you lift it off the sidestand... Then just use your foot to lift it... Off the stand is just as easy... One foot behind the stand, one hand on each handlebar, a short yank back-up and walk the bike backwards till the wheel touches, tilt the stand forward to let the bike down on the sidestand... In no part do you have to balance the bike with one hand and a stand with the other...
05-16-2010, 12:11 PM
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tweety, damn that's a sweet friggin' stand (i say sweet because of how it works) i' been intending to use a steel bar + jack stands to life the bike and unload the rear suspension, but axle pivot isnt large enough to get more than 1/4" piece of steel through there (this is on my rc51)
have woodcraft rearsets, but the exhaust is in the way.
you stand looks perfect for that kind of job!
have woodcraft rearsets, but the exhaust is in the way.
you stand looks perfect for that kind of job!
)... The other side is longer since it's angled... The gap is 54cm between the top pices and it's basicly two 10" long 1/2 extensions one with a 17 mm socket on one and the other ground to a dull point... Two clips that lock them in place... That's all there is too it...BTW I have since made another for a mates RC... Basicly two holes further down that hooks to the swingarm bolt on that one... Angle stays the same, as it makes for the easiest lifting and stable once up...
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07-09-2010, 06:06 AM
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I made this... https://www.superhawkforum.com/forum...11&postcount=1
Lifts at the engine bolts, so you only need one... You can remove front and rear wheel and suspension with this and a small support under the sump...
Lifts at the engine bolts, so you only need one... You can remove front and rear wheel and suspension with this and a small support under the sump...
I Know what I'm doing in the shop tonight now.....
07-09-2010, 12:13 PM
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A trick I used to hoist up the bike by myself is to slip a 3/4" piece of wood under the side stand, which tilts the bike ALMOST vertically, then holding the seat (just to be safe) I walk around to the rear and hoist the bike up (I always have the stand positioned under the swingarms before doing this). I like the Pit Bull because of its heavy-duty construction.
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