What type of Oil for a 78CB550
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For the older bikes you definitely want to use something that is not energy conserving. Their clutches are super sensitive to the oil you use. I had a CB650 that I learned that on. Try one of the diesel oils - Rotella, Delo400, etc. They seem to work well with these bikes.
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In fact, oil DOES get old. The long chain molecules break under heat and shear from moving parts. This results in a lower viscosity, hence the term "viscosity breakdown". The oil is also designed to collect contaminants and hold the ones that are not filtered out in suspension. There are also additive packages such as antifoaming, detergent, and lubricity adding compounds that are used up over time. I won't go into water contamination and emulsification but I think that now you should have most of the facts relating to how oil gets old.
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what's the best filter?
Never had a CB550, but I think they took old style cartridge filters.
Best filter for the VTR is the Purolater Pure One PL14612, or if your willing to leave off the lower fairing the longer PL14610. Either can be had at Pep Boys for under $5, about half (or less) the price of the OEM Honda or Mobil 1.
Best to get the Pure One at Pep Boys 'cause the exact same filter at Auto Zone is twelve bucks.
Never had a CB550, but I think they took old style cartridge filters.
Best filter for the VTR is the Purolater Pure One PL14612, or if your willing to leave off the lower fairing the longer PL14610. Either can be had at Pep Boys for under $5, about half (or less) the price of the OEM Honda or Mobil 1.
Best to get the Pure One at Pep Boys 'cause the exact same filter at Auto Zone is twelve bucks.
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i was trying to make a joke...but anyway, i bought one of those magnetic sump plugs and freebie filter off epay. after this dino change, i'm goin' w/ synth and a wallyworld supertech st7317
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None of the Walmarts around here carry the 7317, just that itty bitty 6607.
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In fact, oil DOES get old. The long chain molecules break under heat and shear from moving parts. This results in a lower viscosity, hence the term "viscosity breakdown". The oil is also designed to collect contaminants and hold the ones that are not filtered out in suspension. There are also additive packages such as antifoaming, detergent, and lubricity adding compounds that are used up over time. I won't go into water contamination and emulsification but I think that now you should have most of the facts relating to how oil gets old.
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Lubricant Storage, Stability, and
Estimated Shelf Life
Storage conditions
The storage environment greatly affects the shelf life of
lubricants and greases. The conditions to monitor are:
lubricants and greases. The conditions to monitor are:
Temperature:
High heat (greater than 45°C) and
extreme cold (less than –20°C) can affect lubricant
stability. Heat increases the rate of oil oxidation, which
can lead to deposit formation and viscosity increase.
Cold temperatures can cause wax and possible sediment
formation. Additionally, alternating product exposure to
heat and cold may draw air into drums, which may result
in moisture contamination. A temperature range of
–20°C to 45°C is acceptable for storing most lubricating
oils and greases. Ideally, the storage temperature range
should be from 0°C to 25°C.
extreme cold (less than –20°C) can affect lubricant
stability. Heat increases the rate of oil oxidation, which
can lead to deposit formation and viscosity increase.
Cold temperatures can cause wax and possible sediment
formation. Additionally, alternating product exposure to
heat and cold may draw air into drums, which may result
in moisture contamination. A temperature range of
–20°C to 45°C is acceptable for storing most lubricating
oils and greases. Ideally, the storage temperature range
should be from 0°C to 25°C.
Light:
Exposure to light can change the color and
appearance of lubricants. To prevent this change, keep
lubricants in their original metal or plastic containers.
appearance of lubricants. To prevent this change, keep
lubricants in their original metal or plastic containers.
Water:
Some lubricant additives may react with water,
forming insoluble matter. Water can also promote
microbial growth at the oil/water interface. Store
lubricants in a dry location, preferably indoors.
forming insoluble matter. Water can also promote
microbial growth at the oil/water interface. Store
lubricants in a dry location, preferably indoors.
Particulate Contamination:
Do not store drums and pails
in areas where there is a high level of airborne particles.
This is especially important when storing a partially used
container.
in areas where there is a high level of airborne particles.
This is especially important when storing a partially used
container.
Atmospheric Contamination:
Oxygen and carbon dioxide
can react with lubricants and affect their viscosity and
consistency. Keep lubricant containers sealed until the
product is needed.
can react with lubricants and affect their viscosity and
consistency. Keep lubricant containers sealed until the
product is needed.
Storage conditions affecting grease
Grease properties may change during storage depending
on thickener type, its concentration, the base fluids and
the additives used. One condition that commonly affects
greases is:
on thickener type, its concentration, the base fluids and
the additives used. One condition that commonly affects
greases is:
Oil Separation:
Oil naturally separates from most grease.
Temperatures in excess of 45°C can accelerate oil
separation. If grease is removed from drums or pails, the
surface of the remaining grease should be smoothed to
prevent oil separation into the cavity.
Temperatures in excess of 45°C can accelerate oil
separation. If grease is removed from drums or pails, the
surface of the remaining grease should be smoothed to
prevent oil separation into the cavity.
Recommended storage conditions and practices
•
Store lubricating oils and greases in a cool, dry indoor
area where airborne particles are at a minimum.
Indoor storage also prevents label deterioration and
the container from weathering. The ideal storage
temperature range is from 0°C to 25°C.
area where airborne particles are at a minimum.
Indoor storage also prevents label deterioration and
the container from weathering. The ideal storage
temperature range is from 0°C to 25°C.
•
If drums must be stored outside, apply one of the
following options:
— Store drums on their side or “blocked” into a tilted
position, with drum bungs at the three and nine
o’clock positions, to allow water to run off.
— Place a plastic cover on top of the drum to keep the
top protected from dust and water.
— Use other equivalent methods to prevent the
ingress of water or dust.
following options:
— Store drums on their side or “blocked” into a tilted
position, with drum bungs at the three and nine
o’clock positions, to allow water to run off.
— Place a plastic cover on top of the drum to keep the
top protected from dust and water.
— Use other equivalent methods to prevent the
ingress of water or dust.
Most lubricating oils and greases deteriorate with time. However,
good storage practices promote sufficient stock turnover so that
lubricants are used before performance loss occurs.
good storage practices promote sufficient stock turnover so that
lubricants are used before performance loss occurs.
1
Marine Lubricants
Information Bulletin
Information Bulletin
Refrigeration oils and brake fluids are highly sensitive
to water contamination and must not be stored outside.
Always store grease upright to prevent oil separation.
to water contamination and must not be stored outside.
Always store grease upright to prevent oil separation.
•
When necessary, bring grease to satisfactory
dispensing temperature just before it is used.
dispensing temperature just before it is used.
•
Rotate the inventory. Check the container fill date and
use the oldest container first.
use the oldest container first.
•
Keep containers tightly covered or closed to avoid
contamination.
contamination.
•
Wipe off the tops and edges of containers before
opening them to avoid contamination.
opening them to avoid contamination.
•
Use clean tools and equipment when pumping or
handling lubricants and grease.
handling lubricants and grease.
Products exceeding the estimated shelf life
A product in an unopened container, which is beyond the
estimated shelf life, may still be suitable for service.
The product should be tested and evaluated against
the original product specifications. Thoroughly mix the
container to ensure a uniform, representative sample is
taken for testing. If the product’s test results fall within
the original specifications, it should be suitable for use.
Following testing, if the product is not consumed within
a year, the product should be marked for reclamation
or disposal.
As a final note, the user should validate the
product’s performance claims against the equipment
manufacturer’s recent specifications. Equipment designs
and specifications can change over time, making an old
product obsolete for use with new equipment. Call your
local Chevron supplier if there are questions concerning
specification obsolescence.
estimated shelf life, may still be suitable for service.
The product should be tested and evaluated against
the original product specifications. Thoroughly mix the
container to ensure a uniform, representative sample is
taken for testing. If the product’s test results fall within
the original specifications, it should be suitable for use.
Following testing, if the product is not consumed within
a year, the product should be marked for reclamation
or disposal.
As a final note, the user should validate the
product’s performance claims against the equipment
manufacturer’s recent specifications. Equipment designs
and specifications can change over time, making an old
product obsolete for use with new equipment. Call your
local Chevron supplier if there are questions concerning
specification obsolescence.
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Estimated Shel f Life of Base Oils , Lubricating Oils , and Greases
Product Years
Base Oils
5+
Lubricating Oils (mineral or synthetic) 5
Lubricating Oils (mineral or synthetic) 5
Greases (mineral or synthetic)
3
Coolants (general)
5
Known Exceptions:
Rust Preventatives
2
Open Gear Lubricants 2
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