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Old 09-25-2008, 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Tweety
You are forgetting one thing... APE's aren't stock... The stock one's need no adjustment... just drop them in and remove the transport tab and they set themselves...
The APE's are an aftermarket performance/race component... Honda wasn't part of that development...
My Honda dealer has a British tech who used to own a VTR, so I thought he would know about the APEs.
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Old 09-25-2008, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by vermontzx6r
This isn't really an engineering error. Its hard to predict product reliabillity 20k down the road.

I lost a 98 toyota tacoma to a failed frame when it rusted from the inside out. THAT is engineering/manufacturing negligence. (I sold mine for pennies before this whole recall thing)

btw, CE's are the ones with all the common sense. ME's lose it somewhere between junior and senior year.
what good does common sense do when all a CE does is play in the dirt all day
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Old 09-25-2008, 11:08 AM
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Just got done puting the APE's on mine. 32,876 miles on the OEM ones. Took me about an hour to do it.Thanks to all the guys for the help on how to do it. Very easy to do just check and re-check.
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Old 09-26-2008, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Yardstick
What are you doing with just one bike anyway? Just buy something else to have fun with while the 'hawk is down. Once the 'hawk is back up and running well you have two bikes to choose from and a spare if one goes down again. Heck, I've got FOUR and I might be adding another this weekend. That'll be five if I can't sell my VTR or XR.
Good luck with the VTX. I've been trying to sell my uncle's for 2 years now. $14,000 with the extras and I'm only asking $7k.
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Old 09-26-2008, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by 1zeppfan
Just got done puting the APE's on mine. 32,876 miles on the OEM ones. Took me about an hour to do it.Thanks to all the guys for the help on how to do it. Very easy to do just check and re-check.
I have 20k on mine. Going to change them next season. Others have gone well past 30k, but I'm not going to take the chance.
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Old 10-01-2008, 10:28 PM
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So it's been a coupla weeks. I asked dave for the breakdown on his parts/labor a few days ago but haven't heard back yet. Kendrick, you know what you're going to do yet?
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Old 10-02-2008, 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Reason
So it's been a coupla weeks. I asked dave for the breakdown on his parts/labor a few days ago but haven't heard back yet. Kendrick, you know what you're going to do yet?
Yeah, it's already in pieces. Saturday I'll pull the head off and go from there. I'm going with APE ccts I think, and depending upon how bad the valves etc. are letting a shop rebuild it. I'll order parts after saturday. 2 APE ccts with gaskets, head gasket, new plugs while I'm at it, and either new valves or if it seems too difficult just let the shop do that for me.
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Old 10-02-2008, 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Kendrick
Probably the first thing I learned as an engineer is not to bother defending myself. Just ignore them and it will get old after a while. Engineering the most useful and most made fun of profession.
Not that i want to point fingers or poke you in the eye with a sharp stick, but "engineering is the most important". What a load of crap! Hmmmm, lets think this one out, if you didn't have a teacher, you wouldn't learn to engineer, or write, or do math, or fill in the blank. If you want to talk about important and underpaid, and made fun of, i think we have you there.
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Old 10-02-2008, 09:47 AM
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Huh, I seem to have struck a nerve. I guess sarcastic jabs back and forth don't translate to text well...
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Old 10-14-2008, 07:44 PM
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well as of tonight the heads are in the shop. They'll call me later this week to let me know what this is going to cost me...
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Old 05-15-2009, 06:41 AM
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Ahh...I see the topic has resurfaced.

Update:

I'm finally, yes finally, almost done with my rebuild. It was an exceeding long winter here and I've only had a few days here and there that I've been able to work on it. I just need to get the carbs back on and up from there.

All said and done about $1000...

Professionally rebuilt heads
Full top gasket set
Had the mechanic bench test all the valve clearances
APE CCTs
Plugs, Oil, Filter, Coolant etc.
countless hours of my time and the stress of not knowing for sure it will start when I'm done
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Old 05-15-2009, 12:08 PM
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And when its all put back together it will smoke like a mosquito fogger because he forgot to install the valve stem seals. . .
just kidding.
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Old 05-26-2009, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Kendrick
Update:

I'm finally, yes finally, almost done with my rebuild.

All said and done about $1000...

Professionally rebuilt heads
Full top gasket set
Had the mechanic bench test all the valve clearances
APE CCTs
Plugs, Oil, Filter, Coolant etc.
countless hours of my time
Ouch, that's quite a lot, especially when you're doing all your own teardown and rebuild work.

As I posted in the other thread, the parts needed on mine (rough $ conversions) were :

2 Inlet valves - $50
2 Valve guide oil seals - $15
1 Head gasket - $25
2 Cam cap screws - $3
1 camchain - $71 (I used a cheaper XL1000V chain)
1 tensioner - $60
1 tensioner gasket - $3
1 water outlet elbow + O ring. - $30
1 new exhaust stud + manifold nut - £free and $1.50
1 Exhaust gasket - $6
1 new centre cap in stator cover - $20
stator cover gasket - $10
New Motul Semi-Synth Oil - $36
Filter - $10

All told $340-ish ?

Most I had to get at Honda parts, apart from maybe the oil and filter.

The centre cap had siezed solid on the stator/alternator cover, so this had to be chiselled off. I also cracked the water elbow when tightening it onto a new O ring.

As an additional warning - be very careful when torquing up the cam retainer caps, I stretched 2 bolts, so make sure that even if the torque wrench hasn't clicked, stop by the same angular degree on the rest of the cap bolts.

the stress of not knowing for sure it will start when I'm done
Yours should be fine, keep everything clean when you replace the cams, check and double check the cam timing, put a smear of grease on the cams before you start it for the first time and it should all go fine.

Oh, and lastly, does everyone change the camchain after a CCT failure ?

Cheers,

Paul.
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Old 06-04-2009, 04:55 PM
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IT'S DONE! IT FIRED RIGHT UP! END OF THREAD!
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Old 07-18-2011, 12:27 AM
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CCT-Heads Builds

Just searching for compatability of camshafts/heads combo and came upon
this thread. Almost 2 years ago. Bet it seems just like yesturday, learned much from the project as I can see.

Kendrick, guess you decided to keep a Hawk. Entertaining and informative read(maybe not at the time though)
Glad it all came out well. Seems most of the posters are now using MCCTs.
Will be installing my MCCTs soon along with the pair block-off plates.
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