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Old 12-11-2008, 12:15 PM
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non o-ring chain?

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has anyone has used a non o-ring chain? did it work well? last long? stretch? more lube required than o-ring or x-ring?
at the long beach bike show i looked at the chains in the did booth. the non o-ring chains were very flexible, the o-ring chain were tight and not flexible at all. hp isn't as important to me as it used to be, but the non o-ring chain should have less friction loss and deliver more power to the pavement.
i am leaning to the xv2(?) chain. it has the best specs and should last the longest. but the non o-ring chain has me intrigued.
why bother with the o-rings that keep the lube inside if i'm constantly lubing the chain anyway?
are there gold, non o-ring chains that have descent specs?
where is the best value for chains & sprokets?
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A standard chain will allow slightly more power to hit the pavement, but I'm not sure you would notice any different with a 1000cc twin. When we ran 125cc mx, we went with standard chains, but then we were only pushing about 25 hp on the pipe.

A standard chain on a SH will most likely not last very long, and require constant lubing and adjustment.

The o-ring does not just keep oil on the chain, actually I bet it does little for oil retention, but what it does do is keep the links from rubbing together, thereby reducing wear.
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Old 12-11-2008, 12:32 PM
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here`s some interesting reading about chains.don`t know how much is true.i hope this link works.http://www.quality-cycle.com/truth_a...cle_chains.htm
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The main difference is service intervals and overall chain life.O ring chains last longer.If your like me and lube/adjust your chain frequently,just go with a good quality standard chain.I just bought sprockets(any size you want) and chain for $150 delivered to my door from these guys... http://www.sumofallparts.net/
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Lubing your chain isn't just to solely lube the chain links. It is also to lube between the chain and sprockets. I've ran non o-ring chains on other bikes and they suck. They require constant adjustment and lubrication. I would save up the extra cash and just buy an o-ring or x-ring chain, whichever your would prefer.
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I am using a standard 530 now. After the break-in stretch, it just gets lubed about every 150-200 miles or after a good days ride. I keep it clean. So far so good.
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the money is not the main reason for being interested in the non o-ring chain. it's actually a small factor.
joe, how long have you had the non o-ring chain? what have you noticed? noise? more lube? more power?
i keep my chains very clean and well lubed too.
interesting comment about the o-rings keeping the plates apart! i never thought of that!
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oh yeah, i found that truth about chains article too. interesting.
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If you are willing to clean and lube your chain every 250-300 miles, a "regular" chain is fine.

I've got the OEM "O ring" on my VTR. Because I clean it (kerosine) and lube it (80/90 gear oil) every 500 miles, I've only had to adjust it three times in about 15k miles. I'd be surprised if I didn't get at least 40k miles out of the original chain.
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i keep my chain very clean and very well lubed. i use a toothbrush and kerosene to clean it. i clean it often, at the first sign of dirt. lube is used a lot too. one thing i'd like is a gold chain because the dirt is easier to see on them. does did make a gold non o-ring chain? if not i think i'll be going with the super street x2 did.
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I've had it on for about 2000 miles. No extra noise heard. It did feel a little less resistance, but I suppose any new chain would feel the same. When I clean my chain I use a "Grunge Brush". It can be bought at most bike shops. It's basically a three sided brush on a stick. Spray cleaner on chain, then scrub, then rinse. I used a non-o-ring this time only because I had an extra one in the shop. If not, I probably would have used a o-ring. It is probably similar to using a 520. But I'll see how long this one lasts.
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