Technical Discussion Topics related to Technical Issues

electrical problems

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-15-2010, 10:04 AM
  #1  
Junior Member
Squid
Thread Starter
 
Ryder3610's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Broken Arrow, ok
Posts: 18
Ryder3610 is on a distinguished road
electrical problems

I got a new stator about 4 months ago and finally got the superhawk rumning, a month ago it went out on me. The odometers went first and then it just died, I took the seat off and the connector going from the stator to the rectifier is burnt to a crisp. Has this happened to anyone and what's the cause ?
Ryder3610 is offline  
Old 11-15-2010, 10:07 AM
  #2  
Out of my mind, back in 5
MotoGP
 
Tweety's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Skurup, Sweden
Posts: 6,109
Tweety is on a distinguished road
That is a classic R/R failure... I'm pretty sure you never needed to replace that stator as they rarely fail outright, they do degrade somewhat though... The R/R's does fail though, and I'd recommend searching the forum for replacing it with a yamaha one...
Tweety is offline  
Old 11-15-2010, 10:21 AM
  #3  
Senior Member
Superstock
 
Mattaua's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: South Kakalaki
Posts: 313
Mattaua is on a distinguished road
I aggree, mine failed and I bought an after market "finned" replacement...it was no good so I upgraded to a Ricks' R1
Mattaua is offline  
Old 11-15-2010, 10:35 AM
  #4  
Junior Member
Squid
Thread Starter
 
Ryder3610's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Broken Arrow, ok
Posts: 18
Ryder3610 is on a distinguished road
Ok do I need to replace the wire harness or just the connector to the rectifier? I had to replace the stator because the guy that had it before me said it was a new one but he didn't tell me he didn't bolt it in so the wires on the stator got chewed up so I replaced it then this happened
Ryder3610 is offline  
Old 11-15-2010, 10:58 AM
  #5  
Junior Member
Squid
 
wildride21's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 6
wildride21 is on a distinguished road
im having the same problem. the factory regulator is junk. my opinion. two times in a year it has left me stranded. im switching to the 2000 yamaha r1 regulator.
wildride21 is offline  
Old 11-15-2010, 11:07 AM
  #6  
Senior Member
Superstock
 
evines's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 320
evines is on a distinguished road
You can just replace the R/R and the connector. You shouldn't have to replace the whole wire. But if you are replacing the connector, make sure you get the matching connector with whatever R/R you end up going with. Or just do what I did, and use individual wire connectors.
evines is offline  
Old 11-15-2010, 11:09 AM
  #7  
Out of my mind, back in 5
MotoGP
 
Tweety's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Skurup, Sweden
Posts: 6,109
Tweety is on a distinguished road
Originally Posted by Ryder3610
Ok do I need to replace the wire harness or just the connector to the rectifier? I had to replace the stator because the guy that had it before me said it was a new one but he didn't tell me he didn't bolt it in so the wires on the stator got chewed up so I replaced it then this happened
Most likely the rest of the harness is just fine... I'd check it along those wires, but no need to replace if it's unharmed...

If you want to be fancy, go shopping here for some connectors to make it plug in nicely...
Tweety is offline  
Old 11-15-2010, 11:56 AM
  #8  
Junior Member
Squid
Thread Starter
 
Ryder3610's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Broken Arrow, ok
Posts: 18
Ryder3610 is on a distinguished road
Ok thanks guys, u all saved me a lot $
Ryder3610 is offline  
Old 11-15-2010, 01:59 PM
  #9  
Senior Member
SuperSport
 
1971allchaos's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Asheville, North Carolina
Posts: 949
1971allchaos is on a distinguished road
Can we clarify some? My understanding -Honda corrected this issues in the later bikes 2001-2005. And these R/R , charging issue were resolved.. Please correct me if this (as i continue to read over and over)
Is changing the R/R now (at 14XXX miles) going to be prevent measure , i should consider now?
1971allchaos is offline  
Old 11-15-2010, 02:14 PM
  #10  
Out of my mind, back in 5
MotoGP
 
Tweety's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Skurup, Sweden
Posts: 6,109
Tweety is on a distinguished road
Well... They tried to correct it is more like it... They did upgrade with a finned R/R with beefier internals... And it does last longer than the older model apparently, but it's still a diode based design so it will fail sooner or later...

The Yamaha ones are Mosfet based and inherently cooler and more efficient ie they will last a lot longer than either of the Honda versions... A lot newer Honda models have the same R/R's as those as well... (for instance the CBR 1000RR has a Mosfet based one, not entirely suitable as replacement though)
Tweety is offline  
Old 11-16-2010, 07:46 PM
  #11  
Senior Member
SuperSport
 
1971allchaos's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Asheville, North Carolina
Posts: 949
1971allchaos is on a distinguished road
So Tweety- Your saying it is going to fail.......DUH. ! ! ! Is there any of the mosfet based R/R that are a direct plug in, and go? Or is the patch in process normal?
1971allchaos is offline  
Old 11-16-2010, 07:59 PM
  #12  
Administrator
MotoGP
 
E.Marquez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Kempner, TX
Posts: 4,402
E.Marquez is on a distinguished road
None of this is new info........ While your welcome to ask a question at a time, wait for an answer that may or may not address your question.. Everything you want to know so far has been asked and answered, posted, re posted.

You can install a later model finned R/R, but it is not a mosfet style, and mostly as useless as the older non fined version.. On the bright side it plugs in.

OR, you can buy the OEM quality plugs or a complete harness for a different model R/R and wire it in to your wiring harness.. The benefits are a modern higher capacity mosfet type R/R like the FH 012 and modern sealed plugs.
E.Marquez is offline  
Old 11-16-2010, 10:42 PM
  #13  
Senior Member
MotoGP
 
smokinjoe73's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: NYC
Posts: 5,033
smokinjoe73 is on a distinguished road
Yeah, so it will fail & do you really want to head out on each ride wondering if it will be the failed one? It is prudent to pre-emptively swap it. I just got the eastern beaver plug for my R1 replacement & they are great quality.
smokinjoe73 is offline  
Old 11-17-2010, 02:07 AM
  #14  
Out of my mind, back in 5
MotoGP
 
Tweety's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Skurup, Sweden
Posts: 6,109
Tweety is on a distinguished road
Originally Posted by 1971allchaos
So Tweety- Your saying it is going to fail.......DUH. ! ! ! Is there any of the mosfet based R/R that are a direct plug in, and go? Or is the patch in process normal?
You're asking me whats normal?! I'm the guy that mixes and matches parts from some 20 bikes together into one, remember?...

But yeah, it's normal, there are no plug and play Mosfet one's... The best/cheapest solution is the R1 with a good cable from Eastern Beaver just like Eric said...
Tweety is offline  
Old 11-21-2010, 10:50 AM
  #15  
Junior Member
Squid
Thread Starter
 
Ryder3610's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Broken Arrow, ok
Posts: 18
Ryder3610 is on a distinguished road
I have a 98 model and my brother has an 02 will his rectifier work on my 98
Ryder3610 is offline  
Old 11-21-2010, 11:30 AM
  #16  
Out of my mind, back in 5
MotoGP
 
Tweety's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Skurup, Sweden
Posts: 6,109
Tweety is on a distinguished road
You did read the rest of the thread, right?!

Might work if I type slower... Y....E....S... B...U...T... I...T... I...S... C...R...A...P... J...U...S...T... L...I...K...E... T...H...E... O...L...D... O...N...E...!
Tweety is offline  
Old 11-21-2010, 11:42 AM
  #17  
Junior Member
Squid
Thread Starter
 
Ryder3610's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Broken Arrow, ok
Posts: 18
Ryder3610 is on a distinguished road
Yea I read that part but right now the bike is my way back and forth to work and I don't have the cash to buy the one I need
Ryder3610 is offline  
Old 11-21-2010, 12:08 PM
  #18  
Out of my mind, back in 5
MotoGP
 
Tweety's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Skurup, Sweden
Posts: 6,109
Tweety is on a distinguished road
How small is the budget? If you can afford it, you can get a good used one on eBay for $40 + $7 shipping... Or if you are lucky with the bidding even cheaper..

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/02-Ya...Q5fAccessories

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2002-...Q5fAccessories

That one you don't need to buy a harness for either... Just use standard spade connectors...

If it wasn't for the fact that shipping kills the whole idea, I'd donate the one I have lying around as a spare...

BTW for the hell of it, PM me your adress and I'll find out what shipping is...

Last edited by Tweety; 11-21-2010 at 12:10 PM.
Tweety is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
ride_hard
Technical Discussion
11
07-03-2013 09:33 AM
jay956
Technical Discussion
17
03-06-2011 02:27 AM
RIHDER34
Technical Discussion
12
05-22-2009 09:28 AM
nevinreilly
Technical Discussion
4
06-10-2008 05:08 AM
StoneJrW
Technical Discussion
30
02-01-2008 02:11 PM



Quick Reply: electrical problems



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 05:46 PM.


Top

© 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands



When you click on links to various merchants on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network.