Chokeless in Seattle
05-10-2007, 05:06 PM
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Chokeless in Seattle
So, I have the new tires on the S-Hawk and am enjoying the fruits of my labor on the TPS adjustment an getting the carb spic-n'-span. It runs like a freakin' top and I am pretty happy. I will be doing a comparo with my old TLS soon, after I get a few hundred miles under my belt. First things first though...
The first time I went through the carbs, I didn't pay any attention to the choke ports where the plunger/needles go. So when I fired it up, choke made no difference. So I thought that was my issue, and thoroughly cleaned them when I went back in for the second time. The problem is, the choke still gives me no fast idle in the morning. Best way to start it (on the mild mornings we've had here over the past week) is to just thumb the starter, and she fires off, runs for a second and then dies. A second stab at the button and just the slightest bit of throttle will coax it to life, where i can give it a little more throttle and run it at 3k for about 15 seconds. Then it's fine. Its almost like the jetting is rich enough on the bottom now, that the choke is too rich. Its a factory pro jet kit, and I'm afraid I didn't make note of the jetting when I was in there. Sorry
Is this something anybody else has experienced? I am not too worried about getting it fired up in mild weather, but worry that some night I may be out in the boonies and the temp drops while I am in having dinner somewhere, and I cant get it fired when I come back out.
Thoughts?
-Ross
The first time I went through the carbs, I didn't pay any attention to the choke ports where the plunger/needles go. So when I fired it up, choke made no difference. So I thought that was my issue, and thoroughly cleaned them when I went back in for the second time. The problem is, the choke still gives me no fast idle in the morning. Best way to start it (on the mild mornings we've had here over the past week) is to just thumb the starter, and she fires off, runs for a second and then dies. A second stab at the button and just the slightest bit of throttle will coax it to life, where i can give it a little more throttle and run it at 3k for about 15 seconds. Then it's fine. Its almost like the jetting is rich enough on the bottom now, that the choke is too rich. Its a factory pro jet kit, and I'm afraid I didn't make note of the jetting when I was in there. Sorry
Is this something anybody else has experienced? I am not too worried about getting it fired up in mild weather, but worry that some night I may be out in the boonies and the temp drops while I am in having dinner somewhere, and I cant get it fired when I come back out.Thoughts?
-Ross
05-11-2007, 12:51 AM
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Mine has started like that in the summer (2 tries, no choke) ever since I jetted it. I use the stock pilots and have mixture screws 2.1 turns out. I think it's normal. I generally use the choke on days when I haven't started her in a week or more, or unusually cold mornings.
05-11-2007, 08:14 AM
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Cool.
That's good to hear, but I think i have pulled another boneheaded Rookie SH owner move. When I went through the carbs, I pulled all the jets, cleaned everything thoroughly (let the jets all soak overnight too) and put it back together. Didn't realize that the jetting is different front to rear. Doh!
Looks like I get to pull the carbs once again. (Though it really is running well) Argh!!! I am getting WAY more proficient and doing the carbs than I want to be.
-R
That's good to hear, but I think i have pulled another boneheaded Rookie SH owner move. When I went through the carbs, I pulled all the jets, cleaned everything thoroughly (let the jets all soak overnight too) and put it back together. Didn't realize that the jetting is different front to rear. Doh!
Looks like I get to pull the carbs once again. (Though it really is running well) Argh!!! I am getting WAY more proficient and doing the carbs than I want to be.
-R
05-11-2007, 12:05 PM
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Yeah. I have lots of experience jetting... but I usually can make my carbs nice and accessible on my previous bikes. The VTR is not hard, just a pain. Honestly its the freaking gas tank lines going on and off that requires me to be contortionist. My ZX-11d is a much bigger pain in the *** to play around with the carbs with though.
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05-11-2007, 12:58 PM
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I've said it before on this forum but when it comes to carb removal nothing holds a candle to the CBX with stock airbox. You have to drop the motor from it's front mounts and to do that you have to remove the stock pipes (6-2 stockers weigh about a bazillion pounds). Figure 1/2 a day if you know what your doing. Racers/modders/hot rodders quickly added bare K&N filters without airbox. Then it's a piece of cake (no motor drop required).
05-11-2007, 01:09 PM
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Getting that left line on/off is the bitch for me.
I've said it before on this forum but when it comes to carb removal nothing holds a candle to the CBX with stock airbox. You have to drop the motor from it's front mounts and to do that you have to remove the stock pipes (6-2 stockers weigh about a bazillion pounds). Figure 1/2 a day if you know what your doing. Racers/modders/hot rodders quickly added bare K&N filters without airbox. Then it's a piece of cake (no motor drop required).
I've said it before on this forum but when it comes to carb removal nothing holds a candle to the CBX with stock airbox. You have to drop the motor from it's front mounts and to do that you have to remove the stock pipes (6-2 stockers weigh about a bazillion pounds). Figure 1/2 a day if you know what your doing. Racers/modders/hot rodders quickly added bare K&N filters without airbox. Then it's a piece of cake (no motor drop required).
-R
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