Looking for HID conversion
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Superstock
Joined: Oct 2009
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From: MN
hey guys, took the headlight apart tonight and mounted the projector, not a bad job at all, granted my "glue" job doesnt look factory but noone will see it 
just a quick question.
the wiring harness has TWO ballast outputs one orange/black and one blue/black
the 3five ballast i have only has the plug for 1 output. which do i plug in there and what do i do with the two wires ( red and black) running out of the projector setup?
i read as much as i could on TRS already but didnt find the answer.
if anyone has some input that would be great!
just a quick question.
the wiring harness has TWO ballast outputs one orange/black and one blue/black
the 3five ballast i have only has the plug for 1 output. which do i plug in there and what do i do with the two wires ( red and black) running out of the projector setup?
i read as much as i could on TRS already but didnt find the answer.
if anyone has some input that would be great!
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Squid
Joined: Jul 2007
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From: Richland, Washington
I'm not at home right now so I can't check but the easiest way to figure it out is to hook up the wiring, except the plug for the ballast and the high beam shield. Power up the system with the low beam on and look for the relay with the green led on. That is the relay with the plug for the ballast. The other relay is for the high beam and that is the one that plugs into the plug coming out of the headlight.
If this doesn't make sense and no one else helps you out I will look at my bike when I get home, probably this time tomorrow. Good luck.
If this doesn't make sense and no one else helps you out I will look at my bike when I get home, probably this time tomorrow. Good luck.
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Superstock
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From: MN
ours are quite different, i will post pics shortly
kbyers, your explanation made some sense, i THINK one of the connectors goes to the ballast, then the other i hook up with the supplied end and that goes to the solenoid (wires coming form the projector itself) the others are all self explanatory.
kbyers, your explanation made some sense, i THINK one of the connectors goes to the ballast, then the other i hook up with the supplied end and that goes to the solenoid (wires coming form the projector itself) the others are all self explanatory.
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Superstock
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From: MN
im pretty sure the blue/black is for the projector and orange/black is for the ballast, not 100% sure though
they supplied a connector that will mate with the one of the two, and i can use it on the two wires coming from behind the projector setup and then plug it into the blue/black connector...thats what im thining anyway
they supplied a connector that will mate with the one of the two, and i can use it on the two wires coming from behind the projector setup and then plug it into the blue/black connector...thats what im thining anyway
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MotoGP
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From: Phoenix, AZ
I cheated and used Adobe Illlustrator, which is kinda like using a Bugatti to deliver pizzas...
Is one of the plugs for hi and one for low beam?
I love the look of projectors inside of stock housing... nice work getting it in there!
Is one of the plugs for hi and one for low beam?
I love the look of projectors inside of stock housing... nice work getting it in there!
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Superstock
Joined: Oct 2009
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From: MN
hahahaha ok i was just wondering it really helps to be able to specify what you are talking about. I think thats what it is one of the plugs just runs the solenoid that moves the projector for HI...
i am really pleased with how it turned out, my one concern is that i didnt use any glue or anything to hold the shroud on... its just a pressure fit, and AFTER i had the light back together i realized that it may come off with all the vibrating the hawk does. we will see i guess
i just cant wait to see the light difference
i am really pleased with how it turned out, my one concern is that i didnt use any glue or anything to hold the shroud on... its just a pressure fit, and AFTER i had the light back together i realized that it may come off with all the vibrating the hawk does. we will see i guess
i just cant wait to see the light difference
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SuperSport
Joined: Apr 2012
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From: Issaquah, WA
My bike had the HID light kit that just used the factory housing. Just as it seems most HID's set up this way do it seemed bright right around the front of the bike and any signs that were out a ways looked blue and lit up, but it just didn't seem to put a lot of light straight in front of you. I switched it out with a Sylvania Silter Star bulb tonight and man it's WAY better! The light actually goes where it's supposed to. Would be interesting to see how the HID's look with the projector housing but so far I'm likin my Silter Stars!
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Squid
Joined: Jul 2007
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From: Richland, Washington
You like your silver stars better because they are putting out the light the way it was meant to be done. Dropping hid bulbs into the stock reflector is dangerous. It provides poor light quality due to the fact that the stock reflector scatters the light instead of aiming it. But more importantly it is dangerous to the other drivers on the road. There is not a cut off like the hid projector housing has. These drop in bulbs need to be made illegal.
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MotoGP
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From: Phoenix, AZ
You like your silver stars better because they are putting out the light the way it was meant to be done. Dropping hid bulbs into the stock reflector is dangerous. It provides poor light quality due to the fact that the stock reflector scatters the light instead of aiming it. But more importantly it is dangerous to the other drivers on the road. There is not a cut off like the hid projector housing has. These drop in bulbs need to be made illegal.
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SuperSport
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From: Issaquah, WA
I agree with you guys totally. All the a-holes on the road running their HID's in factory headlight buckets **** me off because I get sick of getting blinded by them. I've always said I think they like them better because with the disbursement of light directly around you but not projecting out in front of you makes them seem brighter and better when they actually aren't. Just now I've got to experience it for myself.
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Superstock
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From: MN
well i got it all hooked up and running on my bike tonight, im not 100% happy with the angle of the beam though... i did dremel the rings notches about half way but its still slightly tilted... maybe i just need to find a way to keep it in place once i have it level (superglue???)
its pretty crazy how bright it is, its funny but i dont quite remember what my old light was for brightness...
just for reference that building is about 50 yards away... give or take
its pretty crazy how bright it is, its funny but i dont quite remember what my old light was for brightness...
just for reference that building is about 50 yards away... give or take
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Squid
Joined: Aug 2012
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From: Winchester VA
HID Kit
Hi, i was looking through this thread and it seems like they have several options on their website as far as shrouds go anyone know which one fits best ie less trimming? Would like to order one this week and get a head start on a winter project.
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MotoGP
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From: Kempner, TX
Anyone have a Honda PN for this "Euro spec switch," Tweety mentioned?
Im not finding it in any of the Online parts sites I've looked at (perhaps because none of them are in Europe
)Thanks
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MotoGP
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From: Kempner, TX
Sportbike Stage III Kit - Complete Retrofit Kits from The Retrofit Source Inc
The projector in that kit is designed to be drop in..
The projector in that kit is designed to be drop in..
Those of you that purchased this kit... can you tell us what options you choose in the various drop down menus for ordering?
Projector?
Bulb?
Ballast?
Shroud?
Halo?
Thanks
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MotoGP
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From: Skurup, Sweden
The bulb, I'd recommend 4300K for visibily, the others are just for looking fancy, and actually gives less light the higher the Kelvin rate are...
As for 35W or 55W, match it with the ballast option, same wattage as the bulb... (3five = 35W, 5five = 55W) Other than that it's up to you but 35W is plenty, 55W will only draw more power and get slightly warmer on warm days, no real benefit in actual usable output (there is a difference, but it's very small in real life IMHO)... It's also slightly more bulky to mount, so on a bike, I'd choose 35W, and leave the 55W to cars...
Shrouds, I have tried Apollo and E-46, the "old" versions not the extended and such, and both work fine, and look decent... None will cover the projector 100%, and none of them come with mounting, that's up to you to figure out, since you aren't using any stock "cage" to mount the projector in... I'd actually recommend making your own "shroud" really, but that's not for the faint of heart...
Halo... Meh... Not for me, so I'll give no opinions...
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