Looking for a bit of a parts list.... susp and wheels
10-08-2011, 01:55 PM
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They wouldn't be easier to find because the ones I'm offering are right here, lighter yes because they're thinner which is why I used 600rr rotors but up to him what he wants, as far as cheaper wouldn't you need to know what I want for them?
If you do 929/954 front with RC wheel you would have to find 929/954 rotors because they are larger.
If you do 929/954 front with RC wheel you would have to find 929/954 rotors because they are larger.
10-08-2011, 02:06 PM
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Guess you have a real hard on for me for some reason.
In general terms, it is much easier to find cbr 1000 parts than RC51 bits.
As for cost, once again a general statement. I picked up my pair of front rotors from a local racer, brand new (well maybe 100 miles on them for $75) and being in an area where there are many AFM racers selling off stock parts make them quite easy to locate around here..... besides they look better.
Putting them down for being thinner is kind of silly as a CBR1000 needs much more braking power than any VTR ever will and you don't hear the CBR guys complaining about their rotors wearing out prematurely, now do you.
Add to the fact that removing unsprung, rotating mass from the front wheel is on of the best performance mods that can be done and it is a no brainier which rotors you should run.
But you win... here is your cookie
Have a nice damn day
In general terms, it is much easier to find cbr 1000 parts than RC51 bits.
As for cost, once again a general statement. I picked up my pair of front rotors from a local racer, brand new (well maybe 100 miles on them for $75) and being in an area where there are many AFM racers selling off stock parts make them quite easy to locate around here..... besides they look better.
Putting them down for being thinner is kind of silly as a CBR1000 needs much more braking power than any VTR ever will and you don't hear the CBR guys complaining about their rotors wearing out prematurely, now do you.
Add to the fact that removing unsprung, rotating mass from the front wheel is on of the best performance mods that can be done and it is a no brainier which rotors you should run.
But you win... here is your cookie
Have a nice damn day
10-08-2011, 02:57 PM
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I kind of got the feeling it was the other way around but if I'm mistaken then pardon me. I never said the 1000rr rotors were inferior I also went for the lighter rotors, the 600rr rotors that I used are actually the same part # as the 1000rr I believe, which is why I have the extra RC rotors.
To me they didn't seem like general statements when I had just posted something but if they were,my apologies, again I hold no ill will towards you and I don't really know what I did to you for you to react that way towards me but to each there own.
To me they didn't seem like general statements when I had just posted something but if they were,my apologies, again I hold no ill will towards you and I don't really know what I did to you for you to react that way towards me but to each there own.
10-15-2011, 01:02 PM
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looking at wheels again and found matching rc51 wheel set for cheap. worth to get rc51 wheel and just pop in new bearing with 20mm id to work with superhawk axle?
i understand the rc51 wheel is 6" wide vs 900rr 5.5" will the 6" wide fit?
these rc51 wheels are a matching set and cheaper than piecing 900rr rear and rc51 front.
sorry if i keep rehashing stupid ****
i understand the rc51 wheel is 6" wide vs 900rr 5.5" will the 6" wide fit?
these rc51 wheels are a matching set and cheaper than piecing 900rr rear and rc51 front.
sorry if i keep rehashing stupid ****
10-15-2011, 01:13 PM
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I ordered all parts for 954 wheel both bearings collar ,d seals for the front. To me it was too much of a hassle to fit 6" rear but you could get the set and sell the rear and get 900rr or custom spacers and what not. Like I said before I think there's a whole write up on how to make a 6" wheel work but ilike the $ of the 180 better.
10-15-2011, 01:38 PM
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Also have a set of CBR 2006-2007 wheels (wheels,rotors, hub,sprocket)
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10-15-2011, 02:30 PM
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https://www.superhawkforum.com/forum...ead.php?t=7656
Try that now his were aftermerket OZ wheels but they were specifically for RC51 sp1
Try that
now his were aftermerket OZ wheels but they were specifically for RC51 sp1
10-15-2011, 09:56 PM
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11-10-2011, 03:29 PM
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ok so i've got some parts piling up in the garage
929 front end
sp2 front wheel
sp2 rear wheel
rc51 rear caliper bracket
axles, spacers.
looking to figure out options for front brakes and rear swingarm
I see the threads about sp2 rear swingarm but am looking for ino on sp1 swingarm (bought one for DIRT cheap but also full on thinking it won't be THAT beneficial)
929 front end
sp2 front wheel
sp2 rear wheel
rc51 rear caliper bracket
axles, spacers.
looking to figure out options for front brakes and rear swingarm
I see the threads about sp2 rear swingarm but am looking for ino on sp1 swingarm (bought one for DIRT cheap but also full on thinking it won't be THAT beneficial)
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11-10-2011, 06:46 PM
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I have all the RC-51 parts (wheels-front and rear (6spoke) rear will not work on a S-hawk. your back to finding a 900CBR rear wheel.. Without the SP2 swingarm swap( still in R&D) I have the triples upper and lower (SP1 and SP2) front brake calipers/ mounting brackets, brake Master cylinder and OEM brake hoses..
I guess - i've not been as informative about being a enthusiast of both Honda's V-twins
Sorry, I didn't remember posting earlier- want offer again....
I guess - i've not been as informative about being a enthusiast of both Honda's V-twins
Sorry, I didn't remember posting earlier- want offer again....
11-10-2011, 11:22 PM
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The SP1 & SP2 swingarms aren't that different... You'll need to turn a custom sleeve to make the needle bearing on the chain side fit the 20 mm pivot, since it's 25 mm to start with... The bearings on the other side will swap with standard bearing sizes... And you will need a SP1 or SP2 rear caliper, and a SP1 caliper mounting arm (they are not interchangeable)... Apart from that, it's the same as the SP2... Custom "dogbone", and it's a go...
11-11-2011, 12:07 AM
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looking at bike bandit calipers look almost identical to superhawk(must just be a slight change in mounting points.. use same brake pads and same piston.
can't quite tell.
sp1 and sp2 do have different part numbers for the brackets and corresponding calipers as well. sooo similar yet different.
well seeing as i've got an sp1 swinger, sp1 caliper bracket i should just get an sp1 caliper and go forth eh?
can't quite tell.
sp1 and sp2 do have different part numbers for the brackets and corresponding calipers as well. sooo similar yet different.
well seeing as i've got an sp1 swinger, sp1 caliper bracket i should just get an sp1 caliper and go forth eh?
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11-11-2011, 12:55 AM
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The difference between the SP caliper and the VTR is where the brake line attaches to the housing... It's a right PITA trying to make the VTR caliper fit, and you would need a custom line... Hence my advice... AFAIK the SP1 and SP2 calipers are identical...
The bracket is angled differently between the two swingarms and the hole is in a different place, so here it's not optional, you need the right one...
The bracket is angled differently between the two swingarms and the hole is in a different place, so here it's not optional, you need the right one...
11-11-2011, 01:09 AM
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Thank you for clarification.
Any ideas on which axle/calipers/rotors to use? I'm going to assume that since rc51 and 929 triples can be used together wheel spacing is identical so I should be able to run the 929 axle and use it's spacers to center the sp2 wheel (both wheels are 25mm id)
would i also be right in recalling that the rc51 wheel accepts other cbr rotors? and that i SHOULD be able to run the larger 330mm 929 rotors without any type of spacering of the rotors? or is the center "hub" of the sp2 wheel smaller?
I'm not against trial and error but the more parts i can start with the better and the less just WRONG parts I acquire in the process the better. ha ha
Any ideas on which axle/calipers/rotors to use? I'm going to assume that since rc51 and 929 triples can be used together wheel spacing is identical so I should be able to run the 929 axle and use it's spacers to center the sp2 wheel (both wheels are 25mm id)
would i also be right in recalling that the rc51 wheel accepts other cbr rotors? and that i SHOULD be able to run the larger 330mm 929 rotors without any type of spacering of the rotors? or is the center "hub" of the sp2 wheel smaller?
I'm not against trial and error but the more parts i can start with the better and the less just WRONG parts I acquire in the process the better. ha ha
11-11-2011, 02:07 AM
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Thank you for clarification.
Any ideas on which axle/calipers/rotors to use? I'm going to assume that since rc51 and 929 triples can be used together wheel spacing is identical so I should be able to run the 929 axle and use it's spacers to center the sp2 wheel (both wheels are 25mm id)
would i also be right in recalling that the rc51 wheel accepts other cbr rotors? and that i SHOULD be able to run the larger 330mm 929 rotors without any type of spacering of the rotors? or is the center "hub" of the sp2 wheel smaller?
I'm not against trial and error but the more parts i can start with the better and the less just WRONG parts I acquire in the process the better. ha ha
Any ideas on which axle/calipers/rotors to use? I'm going to assume that since rc51 and 929 triples can be used together wheel spacing is identical so I should be able to run the 929 axle and use it's spacers to center the sp2 wheel (both wheels are 25mm id)
would i also be right in recalling that the rc51 wheel accepts other cbr rotors? and that i SHOULD be able to run the larger 330mm 929 rotors without any type of spacering of the rotors? or is the center "hub" of the sp2 wheel smaller?
I'm not against trial and error but the more parts i can start with the better and the less just WRONG parts I acquire in the process the better. ha ha
One thing though, the SP front wheel should be 22 mm OD for the axle... Not 25 mm... Or I'm mistaken... Re-check... All my sources say 22...
If it's 22, you need to swap the bearings and the center spacer, which will need to be cut to correct lenght, and grind out a piece of cast metall in the wheel hub to make the new spacer fit... Also, the spacing is off by 2 mm, so you need a 1 mm spacer for each side...
11-11-2011, 12:08 PM
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Something in your planning, either measurements or something else is amiss... Or your parts aren't in their original shape...
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