Latest OCMD project: modded airbox lid
Rex Kramer-Thrill Seeker
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Spokes has the same mains (198F/200R) as I do. I can attest to the better fuel economy. You would think that the fuel economy would go to crap with this mod, but it got better for me as well.
Actual dyno numbers coming
Actual dyno numbers coming
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I want the XWing now......
And a single big bore pipe......
Rex Kramer-Thrill Seeker
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Hey, are ya hittin' up the Slimey Crud Run this Sunday? I'll be the one rockin' a flat black Superhawk. If you are so inclined, you can take 'er for a spin if you like and see what a major difference the F.I.L. mod makes. This is only IF I recieve the correct clutch parts.
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Bike is stunning. Very happy with it. As quick as anything in a straight line.
On the road the cruse is a smidge out but an adjustment of the screws will sort that out. It is the best it has ever run, by a long way.
I have another track day next week at my normal track. Looking forward to it now.
Current set up is, 48 Idles. 2mm and 2.5mm shims and 198/200 mains. Stock needles.
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Nice score. If you need a hand with anything, let me know man. Let's see some pictures of your progress when you start cutting up the lid.
Hey, are ya hittin' up the Slimey Crud Run this Sunday? I'll be the one rockin' a flat black Superhawk. If you are so inclined, you can take 'er for a spin if you like and see what a major difference the F.I.L. mod makes. This is only IF I receive the correct clutch parts.
Hey, are ya hittin' up the Slimey Crud Run this Sunday? I'll be the one rockin' a flat black Superhawk. If you are so inclined, you can take 'er for a spin if you like and see what a major difference the F.I.L. mod makes. This is only IF I receive the correct clutch parts.
At least the Pine Bluff meetup. I was thinking of taking the XX and put my for sale sign on it
I'll look for a flat black SH !
(back on track.....)
removed the lid from the donor airbox.
stock filter looks nice. pretty clean.
Here is the donor lid & donor K&N (from my XX)
Here is a pile of gunk that brushed out of my K&N - it was as thick as my finger, too
I used the recharge cleaner = viola! Clean. Drying it overnight...
Last edited by Spoot; Oct 3, 2014 at 09:45 PM.
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You will need to lift your tank 5 to 10mm.
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Cool,
You're setup is essentially the same as mine as my airbox, filter and engine is stock with Micron Titanium high slip-on pipes the only powertrain mod.
I can move forward with my FIL mod and use your settings as a baseline and work from there.
Cheers,
Alex
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I didn't see Crux at the Crud Run...but I talked to the guy from the shop that would do my dyno runs...i think I'll just drop it off with the new FIL lid and a list of jets & settings. Hand him some cash and wait to see what happens.
I oiled the K&N. Need to get cutting things up.
I oiled the K&N. Need to get cutting things up.
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I didn't see Crux at the Crud Run...but I talked to the guy from the shop that would do my dyno runs...i think I'll just drop it off with the new FIL lid and a list of jets & settings. Hand him some cash and wait to see what happens.
I oiled the K&N. Need to get cutting things up.
I oiled the K&N. Need to get cutting things up.
Good luck with the F.I.L. mod!
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so NZ how is the FIL mod compared to the snorkel mod ?
its running great right now, but its also basicly jetted same as you except of the mains so i hope...
but in some bigger mains and fil mod and be done with it, but i also want some dynotime maybe a comparison between snorkel & fil mod
its running great right now, but its also basicly jetted same as you except of the mains so i hope...
but in some bigger mains and fil mod and be done with it, but i also want some dynotime maybe a comparison between snorkel & fil mod
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so NZ how is the FIL mod compared to the snorkel mod ?
its running great right now, but its also basicly jetted same as you except of the mains so i hope... but in some bigger mains and fil mod and be done with it, but i also want some dynotime maybe a comparison between snorkel & fil mod
its running great right now, but its also basicly jetted same as you except of the mains so i hope...
but in some bigger mains and fil mod and be done with it, but i also want some dynotime maybe a comparison between snorkel & fil modMy jetting suit my bike in my country and the fuel we get here. May not suit your bike.
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Doing some fine tuning. Decided to check the plugs at a low rpm condition. Was running at 2500rpm then left to idle for about 10 seconds.
Below is the plugs. Interesting that the front one is black and sooty and the rear is clean light brown. Fuels screws were set 2 out rear and 1.75 out front.
Thats a big difference. So have now set them at front 1.25 turns out and rear at 2.25 turns out. Will ride it to work tomorrow and see what it rides like but it looks like for my bike anyway I need to stagger my idle jetting. Maybe 48 rear and 45 front.
Before its brought up, no the tip of my front plug is not missing. It just matches the colour of the wood.
But in the morning I can pin it on the road leading into my work. So I will plug chop it so I can see whats happening under power.
Below is the plugs. Interesting that the front one is black and sooty and the rear is clean light brown. Fuels screws were set 2 out rear and 1.75 out front.
Thats a big difference. So have now set them at front 1.25 turns out and rear at 2.25 turns out. Will ride it to work tomorrow and see what it rides like but it looks like for my bike anyway I need to stagger my idle jetting. Maybe 48 rear and 45 front.
Before its brought up, no the tip of my front plug is not missing. It just matches the colour of the wood.
But in the morning I can pin it on the road leading into my work. So I will plug chop it so I can see whats happening under power.
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http://tripodcars.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=26
Will this solve all your issues if he gets the kit up and running
Will this solve all your issues if he gets the kit up and running
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Tri Pod Forum • View topic - Fitting Fuel injection to the Firestorm
Will this solve all your issues if he gets the kit up and running
Will this solve all your issues if he gets the kit up and running
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IMO, there may be a hp gain to be had via the larger diameter throttle bodies (ie. 54mm on SP-1 vs 48mm on VTR carbs)... An interesting project, but I doubt he'll be giving his kits away......
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Power run plug chop. Pretty happy with that. Very close. Am thinking down a size on both mains. Was a short power run. Plug heat range looks good.
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Track day yesterday and did a plug chop on the last lap of the day. Plugs look ok with the rear showing a little rich. Both showing good in the mid but still a little rich on idles.
Bike is making good power. I may change to 45s and match the mains next time I have the carbs off but I feel no need to to it urgently. Got other ideas I want to try.
I might insulate the outside of the airbox. I was quite warm when touched after a session. Want to tidy up inside the airbox. And pull the exhaust to clean up inside it and wrap it. etc etc
Bike is making good power. I may change to 45s and match the mains next time I have the carbs off but I feel no need to to it urgently. Got other ideas I want to try.
I might insulate the outside of the airbox. I was quite warm when touched after a session. Want to tidy up inside the airbox. And pull the exhaust to clean up inside it and wrap it. etc etc
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You mentioned going down a size on your mains. I know our bikes are different, and we live in different areas, however when I was one size lower on the mains (190F/195R), the engine was very lean, to the point of cutting out. I had my fingers crossed going to the 198F/200R, because they (JetsRus) don't make anything bigger.
I was thinking, since you track your bike a lot, you would be a good candidate for ram air with the F.I.L. mod. People have had great results going to ram air. However, if you were to install ram air, you would be out of luck, since you would need larger mains.
Does anyone know if there are mains available bigger than 200?
I was thinking, since you track your bike a lot, you would be a good candidate for ram air with the F.I.L. mod. People have had great results going to ram air. However, if you were to install ram air, you would be out of luck, since you would need larger mains.
Does anyone know if there are mains available bigger than 200?
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You mentioned going down a size on your mains. I know our bikes are different, and we live in different areas, however when I was one size lower on the mains (190F/195R), the engine was very lean, to the point of cutting out. I had my fingers crossed going to the 198F/200R, because they (JetsRus) don't make anything bigger.
I was thinking, since you track your bike a lot, you would be a good candidate for ram air with the F.I.L. mod. People have had great results going to ram air. However, if you were to install ram air, you would be out of luck, since you would need larger mains.
Does anyone know if there are mains available bigger than 200?
I was thinking, since you track your bike a lot, you would be a good candidate for ram air with the F.I.L. mod. People have had great results going to ram air. However, if you were to install ram air, you would be out of luck, since you would need larger mains.
Does anyone know if there are mains available bigger than 200?
