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Old Jan 3, 2015 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by NZSpokes
Extra 1mm shim has helped a lot. Thing is almost scary to ride. Did just under 300ks.

Think I will come up a little on idle jet but thats about it.

I wlll try 220s after my next track day.
I'd be interested in the final number of trials it took to dial it in.
Old Jan 3, 2015 | 09:52 PM
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I'd be interested in the final number of trials it took to dial it in.
You make it sound like im finished.....





Far to many to count. I made the mistake of trying leaner when it wanted richer.
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I cant find any jets larger than the ones I'm currently running (198/200). I found some information that says for example, if you want a 120 jet (Mukini), you would use a 1.20mm drill bit. Is this correct?

I have several stock jets that can be drilled out on the drill press. I just need to find some metric drill bits in 2.0mm, 2.05mm, 2.10mm, 2.15mm, 2.20mm, 2.25mm and 2.3mm.
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Originally Posted by CruxGNZ
I cant find any jets larger than the ones I'm currently running (198/200). I found some information that says for example, if you want a 120 jet (Mukini), you would use a 1.20mm drill bit. Is this correct?

I have several stock jets that can be drilled out on the drill press. I just need to find some metric drill bits in 2.0mm, 2.05mm, 2.10mm, 2.15mm, 2.20mm, 2.25mm and 2.3mm.

I measured the Kehin jets and they look to be metric. So have drilled to suit. All I know is with a 2.10 bit she goes like stink.


Rider following me yesterday said he can smell my exhaust. But it goes better than it ever has.
Old Jan 11, 2015 | 12:46 AM
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Well at my track day today at high rpm I was getting misses. I think she was leaning out.

Should I try one more shim or 220s?
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methinks you're too rich.....
Old Jan 11, 2015 | 10:03 AM
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methinks you're too rich.....
Will find out soon, mate on a GSXR750 was trying to keep up and he was behind me for one full session. And he had a go pro on. That should show what was coming out of my pipes.

He could not keep up with me out of turns.
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Do you have a dyno near you?

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Old Jan 13, 2015 | 10:57 AM
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So after watching about 20min of footage from behind me I have concluded 2 things. One is the bike does not show any richness out of the pipes. Two my bike pulls away from a GSXR750 at full throttle.


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Old Jan 13, 2015 | 11:40 AM
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Where are these "videos"? No videos, then it didn't happen.

Come on, really, post up the videos.
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Originally Posted by VTR1000F
Where are these "videos"? No videos, then it didn't happen.

Come on, really, post up the videos.
I will see if the guy has Utubed them. Im a idiot when it comes to that stuff, it takes me days....
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Originally Posted by NZSpokes
So after watching about 20min of footage from behind me I have concluded 2 things. One is the bike does not show any richness out of the pipes. Two my bike pulls away from a GSXR750 at full throttle.


Happy days
good news on both counts
Old Jan 24, 2015 | 10:17 AM
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Current settled on setting is 210s, 35/40 idles and 1 hole plugged in the slide.

Loves it and getting good economy.
Old Jan 24, 2015 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by NZSpokes
Current settled on setting is 210s, 35/40 idles and 1 hole plugged in the slide.

Loves it and getting good economy.

Are the mains Honda or aftermarket?
Old Jan 24, 2015 | 09:48 PM
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Are the mains Honda or aftermarket?
Drilled. 2.1mm.
Old Jan 24, 2015 | 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by VTR1000F
Where are these "videos"? No videos, then it didn't happen.

Come on, really, post up the videos.
Its pretty crap as im hopless at good edits. But you get the idea.

Taken from my mates helmet cam on a GSXR750. He has better corner speed than me by miles. Good way to get a vid done as I can see my bad body position which Im working on now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEUJ...ature=youtu.be
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And another. Have filled a hole in each slide since this and found more midrange.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8-b...ature=youtu.be
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Have just found out a mate of a mate has a Dyno jet Bike Dyno in his shed.

2 more mods and I will book some dyno time.
Old Feb 26, 2015 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by NZSpokes
Have just found out a mate of a mate has a Dyno jet Bike Dyno in his shed.

2 more mods and I will book some dyno time.
Awesome! I'm glad one of us will finally figure out what kind of power this F.I.L. mod makes.

You mention two more mods. What other mods are you planning?
Old Feb 26, 2015 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by CruxGNZ
Awesome! I'm glad one of us will finally figure out what kind of power this F.I.L. mod makes.

You mention two more mods. What other mods are you planning?
Im about to lighten the flywheel. then want to go single pipe.
Old Mar 5, 2015 | 06:52 PM
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when I get my FIL, I'll be doing dyno-time with it for sure!!
(and when I get the SH out of deep winter storage....)
Old Mar 19, 2015 | 06:30 PM
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Been running the bike all this week. Screw the salt & sand on the roads. Washing the bike only takes an hour anyways. It's worth it! I've been changing jets along the way. I installed a Flow Commander and WOW does this make tuning a crap ton easier! Man, is this a fantastic product. For those of you on the fence, BUY IT. I would almost go as far as saying you should buy this to tune in your FIL mod. It's $160, but totally worth it.

Right now, my settings are:
Front
Main 205
Pilot 48
Fuel screw 2 turns out

Rear
Main 210
Pilot 48
Fuel screw 2.25 turns out

Flow Commander 1.5 turns out.

The power keeps getting better up top. Fuel economy is getting better as well. It seems like it would get worse using more fuel, but I am getting more and more miles out of a tank of fuel. I keep having to recalibrate my Veypor gauge.
Trying to tune in the low end is the issue for me. It is really crisp, but I feel it can be better. I might go down to 45 pilots if these 48's don't work out.

Spoot, if you are reading this, your FIL mod lid will be finished next week. I have Monday-Wednesday off of work, so it will be done and painted then man.

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Old Mar 19, 2015 | 06:36 PM
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Of course I'm reading
Good timing, I get my trailer out of deep storage this weekend and will do a little prep for this years track season.
Then, of course, taking it in for a dyno tune !!
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Spoot, you might want to look into getting some metric drill bits, unless your dyno guy has them on hand. Over 200 mains and you need to drill the jets, because as far as I have found, nobody makes them any bigger for our carbs. The drill bits are cheap. Cost me like six bucks to get drill bits up to 230 mains.

Since you are doing the tuning on the dyno, disregard my mention of the Flow Commander.
Old Mar 19, 2015 | 09:28 PM
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Im 35/40 on idles. Feels good to me.
Old Mar 20, 2015 | 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by NZSpokes
Im 35/40 on idles. Feels good to me.
That looks like the direction I'm headed in. However, it just didn't feel right to jump right down to 45's and skip over the 48's.

Now that I replaced the carb float bowl phillips head fasteners with stainless allen head fasteners, it makes it a lot easier to change jets without removing the carbs. I can change jets in ~10 minutes now.
Old Mar 20, 2015 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by CruxGNZ
That looks like the direction I'm headed in. However, it just didn't feel right to jump right down to 45's and skip over the 48's.

Now that I replaced the carb float bowl phillips head fasteners with stainless allen head fasteners, it makes it a lot easier to change jets without removing the carbs. I can change jets in ~10 minutes now.
It makes life a lot easier doing it that way.

I would like to try a different needle profile as I think the stock one is to lean. thats why when we lift the needle so much we end up with low end problems.
Old Mar 20, 2015 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by NZSpokes
It makes life a lot easier doing it that way.

I would like to try a different needle profile as I think the stock one is to lean. thats why when we lift the needle so much we end up with low end problems.
I haven't had any low end problems with my Factory Pro needles when I raise them. I have a picture showing the difference between the Dyno Jet needle and Factory Pro needle. I'll find the picture and update this post.

I just put on about 90 miles today with the 48 pilots and it is still too much. I'm putting in the 45's tonight.

With the 205F 210R I have the Flow Commander set at 1 turn out and it keeps getting better the more I turn it in (making it richer). I might jump up to 210F 215R and fine tune with the Flow Commander.

For the life of me, I can't remember which needle is which. I think the Factory Pro needle is on the bottom and Dyno Jet on top.
Edit: Thank you for the correction Micky! Dynojet is on the bottom and Factory Pro is on the top.

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Old Mar 20, 2015 | 06:38 PM
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Top one is a ton richer.
Old Mar 21, 2015 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by CruxGNZ
Spoot, you might want to look into getting some metric drill bits, unless your dyno guy has them on hand. Over 200 mains and you need to drill the jets, because as far as I have found, nobody makes them any bigger for our carbs. The drill bits are cheap. Cost me like six bucks to get drill bits up to 230 mains.
I can call him to check...but, given his pedigree, it might be an insult to ask??

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