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Requesting help with cheapie integrated tail light wiring
My previous integrated tail light stopped working correctly; the left side tail and brake lights don't work anymore. Signals on both sides work. I'm not able to get the plastic off without damaging it to get to the guts, and not sure I could identify any problems, nevermind fix anything I could find anyway. So, replaced with a cheapo from Amazon. Bought it last July, never bothered to put it on, but now the time has come. Return window obviously closed.
Issue:
I can't get the amber indicators to light up correctly.
Here's the mapping that I have worked out:
[Wire on bike > wire on light]
Ground: green > black
Tail light: orange > yellow
Brake light: green/yellow > red
Indicators: yellow > (yellow/left, blue/right)
I can get the tail light and brake light to light up, and they will turn off when the indicators are engaged. This is correct behavior, and is confirmed by a separate set of LED indicators that are still working fine. When the indicators are lit, the integrated red light is off, and vice versa. So what should happen is that when the indicator is engaged, the red LEDs will alternate with the amber LEDs, on that side. Only half of that is happening.
If I connect the tail light wire on the bike (orange) to either indicator wire on the light, the amber LEDs will light up solid. So they're present and functional in the new tail light.
Secondary issue: in messing around, now turning either indicator on results in all four flashers engaging. Not sure if that's due to low battery (bike has been sitting), a blown fuse, or if the relay got broken. Relay was previously installed by my shop.
Any help is much appreciated. I own a multimeter but don't know how to apply it to this issue.
I had same problem with mine. Turns out was the lamp itself. Disassembled the light and removed the junk led strip, went to advance and bought Sylvania red led bulbs and a set of amber led marker lights for boat trailers.
Installed the red led bulbs in stock holders, and the amber led marker lights I hot melt glued them in place in the corners. I drilled the backing ran the wires through, reassembled with hot melt.
Wired the amber marker lights to the stock indicators.
Changed to an led signal relay and it works great. It is twice as bright as the junk *** led strip that was in the light. Brake light is super bright really feel much safer with it. And unlike the led strip they mimic incandescent light patterns and are visible at all angles. .
The light looks factory, colors are true not a dead pink and dim orange like the Chinese light strip.
With coupon codes buying online pick up in store I spent about $24.00 for bulbs and lights, bout 9 for the relay. I couldn't be happier with the results.
It is straightforward using a volt meter and continuity setting on a multi-meter.
About years ago I changed the OEM tail-brake light bulbs to LED and installed a low-load TS relay. Probably 3 years before I installed front marker-turn signal assemblies on the rear and ran a hot for the marker circuit.
I also converted the tail light after disassembling shaping a 10 LED diode brake (6 diodes) - tail light (4 diodes) module until it lost 2 diodes. I also had a NEON LICENSE PLATE SURROUND BRAKE LIGHT!!!
LIGHT!
This is the electrical power schedule for my 98 low mile fastest red VTR1000F
Last edited by skokievtr; Mar 28, 2020 at 03:21 PM.
Thanks very much. I had some time over the weekend and worked on it. rktdoc's post about the wiring got me thinking - what if the relay that's already installed doesn't like the resistors that are on the replacement lamp? So I disassembled it and ran a jumper from the bike signal wires to the junction on the circuit board on the "other" side of the resistor. It made a very quiet arcing noise, which could have just been not holding the wire steadily, and I thought maybe I broke it, but when I connected it normally, it worked like it's supposed to. I wired it and buttoned it back up and it still works, so ... PFM? Luck?
Side note to anyone who stumbles upon this thread. I don't recommend this taillight. Even now that it's working, it's pretty dim.