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Old 10-31-2009, 03:33 PM
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Project Superhawk motard "SuMoHawk" begins

As some of you read, I decided to try to convert my Superhawk into a "Motard". I just got the forks today, so I shall start working on the project.

Initial fitment test:
The axle from the superhawk fits the forks perfectly, which is good. The wheel does not fit with both rotors installed, however it fits with a single rotor. I will need to make some axle spacers, as the stock ones do not fit correctly.
I also found that these forks have little tabs to hold the speedo sensor housing in place. These interfere with the wheel, so I will be grinding them off.

Once I grind the little tabs off I can mount the wheel and test if it will clear the front cylinder. Fingers are crossed. What I have to work with:
The bike:


The forks:

Still a ways to go:

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Old 10-31-2009, 03:46 PM
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why does the tank say suzuki? was someone confused?
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Old 10-31-2009, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by WAYNEHAMMER
why does the tank say suzuki? was someone confused?
I was thinking the same thing, lol.
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Old 10-31-2009, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by WAYNEHAMMER
why does the tank say suzuki? was someone confused?
I was bored and put Suzuki stickers on the tank.
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Old 10-31-2009, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Just_Nick
I was bored and put Suzuki stickers on the tank.
Hmmmmm...ooooo k....
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Is that the same green as my old ZX12? (I miss that bike sniff sniff)
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Looks like it.
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Old 10-31-2009, 08:22 PM
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You got a Honda in Kawi colors with Suzuki stickers?... Isn't that kinda like cross-dressing?

Get the poor thing rebuilt to a Motard... ASAP...
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Old 10-31-2009, 08:36 PM
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On it!
Victory, front wheel mounted on forks:
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Originally Posted by Just_Nick
I was bored and put Suzuki stickers on the tank.
Blasphemy! ......
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Old 11-01-2009, 12:05 AM
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Those tank stickers make my head explode...
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I wondered if it was a TLS tank fitted for larger capacity, obviously not.
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Which make and model bike are the forks from?
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Originally Posted by Just_Nick
On it!
Victory, front wheel mounted on forks:

The front looks it like it's coming together for you - but what are you going to do about the rear? That seems like it would be a lot more difficult.
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Old 11-01-2009, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by JamieDaugherty
The front looks it like it's coming together for you - but what are you going to do about the rear? That seems like it would be a lot more difficult.
I'm thinking about changing the length of the shock linkage so I get more wheel travel for the same amount of shock travel.
I might also throw in a dirt bike rear shock.
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very interesting! i'm curious to see where this goes. good luck with the project
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Dirt bike forks. Dirt bikes weigh like 250lbs or less right?
Single disk stopping SH weight?
I like that you're doing something different but everything about this concept is counter to what SuperMoto stands for. Frankenbike fits better.
Good luck.
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"Oh geez"....that sticker!
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I didn't realize everyone would get so up-in-arms over a Suzuki sticker. Where's the humor guys?
Dan, I am going to be swapping to a F4i or RC51 caliper and master for stopping power. Since it's going to only have a single brake line, that should be more than enough stopping power. And also, I am going to buy some different springs if I don't like how the sag is. I am probably wanting it to be at 60% of its travel(so 7" of up-travel, 5" down-travel).
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I got a chuckle out of it,saw you on barf also.Good luck
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Originally Posted by Just_Nick
I didn't realize everyone would get so up-in-arms over a Suzuki sticker. Where's the humor guys?
Considering you are the one giving uchi so much flack I figure it's all in good fun. :P Plus you do have a crossdressing bike.. lol

Good luck on the swap! it is an interesting project.
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Originally Posted by lazn
Considering you are the one giving uchi so much flack I figure it's all in good fun. :P Plus you do have a crossdressing bike.. lol

Good luck on the swap! it is an interesting project.
Haha I know, I just found it funny how people were so shocked by a sticker.
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Plus you do have a crossdressing bike.. lol
A person's bike really does say a lot about them......











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Originally Posted by Hawkrider
A person's bike really does say a lot about them......











Want some pictures? hahaha
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Okay guys I got some work done today.
First off, pulling the front fairing. Look, my own Suzuki streetfighter.


Next step, pulling the front wheel.


After that, off come the stock forks:


Damn these forks are way bigger. The lower triple is literally over double as thick:


And on go the WR250 forks:


Close-up:


Front view:


Finally, top triple installed:


Note that is all mocked up. I need to grind the steering stops down since they limit me to 10 degress of steering each way. I also need to drill the bearing cover wider so that no dust gets in there. And I need to make a spacer for it, as the steering stem is too long.
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Notice the position of the axle for both forks in relation to the centerline of the forks. Notice how the WR forks have the axle out front. That change in axle location will alter your trail numbers significantly. I don't know what year WR those forks are from. A quick search gave me a rake of 26.67° for the '08. The rake for the VTR is 24.5° and a trail of 3.8". When I did my 1000RR fork swap I was getting really funky handling characteristics by having the forks too far down in the triples by about 2cm. All I did was change the fork offset!

You really need to do some good R&D on this before you start bolting **** together and spending hundreds of dollars. Do a search for rake, trail, and offset and do some reading. Find an online trail calculator and figure out if this is going to work before you start.
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For the love of god man, clean you garage! I'm having an OCD fit just looking at those pictures.
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You're more than welcome to come and help me clean it.
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Originally Posted by Tweety
You got a Honda in Kawi colors with Suzuki stickers?... Isn't that kinda like cross-dressing?

Get the poor thing rebuilt to a Motard... ASAP...
Thats funny!! Guess its a Yamasakihonduki...
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