Project Superhawk motard "SuMoHawk" begins
11-01-2009, 03:56 PM
#31
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11-01-2009, 05:08 PM
#32
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I must admit that mine can look pretty bad at times too. I try to do a good job of keeping it picked up, but when time is in short supply and you have to choose between getting work done and cleaning..... well....
11-01-2009, 05:56 PM
#34
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Amen, great advice.
Nick, you have some great resources here, I'm sure that is part of why you post.
Make sure you do this homework on rake and trail. You could put it together, ride slow ok and then start increasing speed only to wind up in a balled up mess.
Have a good time and be safe.
Your tank is some funny S**T. wouldn't do it personally but I can appreciate your humor.
It takes all kinds.
Remember we are all douche bags just some of us realize it.
Nick, you have some great resources here, I'm sure that is part of why you post.
Make sure you do this homework on rake and trail. You could put it together, ride slow ok and then start increasing speed only to wind up in a balled up mess.
Have a good time and be safe.
Your tank is some funny S**T. wouldn't do it personally but I can appreciate your humor.
It takes all kinds.
Remember we are all douche bags just some of us realize it.
11-01-2009, 08:18 PM
#36
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Does the front tire sit centered in the forks? If it wouldn't fit with both discs that implies that it will have to sit off to one side to make the wheel fit. In the photo it even looks off centered.
I also second the comments on rake and trail. Also bear in mind that sometimes the triple clamps themselves will set the forks at a mild angle. They are not always a straight through perfectly perpendicular hole.
I also second the comments on rake and trail. Also bear in mind that sometimes the triple clamps themselves will set the forks at a mild angle. They are not always a straight through perfectly perpendicular hole.
11-02-2009, 05:58 PM
#39
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Dude has ***** of steel. It might not be my bag of chips, but you have to admire the verve.
BTW: At what weight would a single 6p GSXR caliper do the job at stopping the bike, do you think? My Cyclone was 470lbs and had one PM 6p caliper and did just fine. I had a PM on my Hawk GT (w/ a CBR f3 front end and adaptor plate) and it was overkill to say the least, but that was a 400lb machine. It would look killer with spoked rims and a single, bad-*** caliper on a huge rotor.
I would start with a Harris frame, Akron rims, and a grinder and move forward if it were mine, but that's why I never finish anything
-- R.
PS: I imagine you can do all this because you have a good second bike or because you live in New England?
BTW: At what weight would a single 6p GSXR caliper do the job at stopping the bike, do you think? My Cyclone was 470lbs and had one PM 6p caliper and did just fine. I had a PM on my Hawk GT (w/ a CBR f3 front end and adaptor plate) and it was overkill to say the least, but that was a 400lb machine. It would look killer with spoked rims and a single, bad-*** caliper on a huge rotor.
I would start with a Harris frame, Akron rims, and a grinder and move forward if it were mine, but that's why I never finish anything
-- R.PS: I imagine you can do all this because you have a good second bike or because you live in New England?
Last edited by Crashrat; 11-02-2009 at 06:06 PM.
11-03-2009, 06:30 AM
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Well, as I say, my M2 was fine and it was about the same size as the SH, but my brother's S3 (Buell Thunderbolt) warped two rotors in three years. I suspect that this is because the S3 weighs about 30lbs more than a M2. I also warped the stock F3 rotor on my Hawk GT -- the common wisdom here was that you needed fully floating rotors to dissipate the heat and when I switched I never had another problem.
A final food-for-thought might be the fork size. Dudes in England put an over-sized caliper and rotor on their XBR500s (basically the US version of the Honda GB500) and HAD to run a fork brace or the machine had bad front-end flex. At 41mm the forks on the SH are somewhat thin for its size and you might get strange effects by running just one caliper. (The Buell had 43mm.)
I'd love to just run one caliper on the SH at some point, especially if I ever get the nerve up to make it naked and could shed 30lbs from the bike.
Look forward to more pictures!
Randy
A final food-for-thought might be the fork size. Dudes in England put an over-sized caliper and rotor on their XBR500s (basically the US version of the Honda GB500) and HAD to run a fork brace or the machine had bad front-end flex. At 41mm the forks on the SH are somewhat thin for its size and you might get strange effects by running just one caliper. (The Buell had 43mm.)
I'd love to just run one caliper on the SH at some point, especially if I ever get the nerve up to make it naked and could shed 30lbs from the bike.
Look forward to more pictures!
Randy
11-03-2009, 08:50 AM
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Well, as I say, my M2 was fine and it was about the same size as the SH, but my brother's S3 (Buell Thunderbolt) warped two rotors in three years. I suspect that this is because the S3 weighs about 30lbs more than a M2. I also warped the stock F3 rotor on my Hawk GT -- the common wisdom here was that you needed fully floating rotors to dissipate the heat and when I switched I never had another problem.
A final food-for-thought might be the fork size. Dudes in England put an over-sized caliper and rotor on their XBR500s (basically the US version of the Honda GB500) and HAD to run a fork brace or the machine had bad front-end flex. At 41mm the forks on the SH are somewhat thin for its size and you might get strange effects by running just one caliper. (The Buell had 43mm.)
I'd love to just run one caliper on the SH at some point, especially if I ever get the nerve up to make it naked and could shed 30lbs from the bike.
Look forward to more pictures!
Randy
A final food-for-thought might be the fork size. Dudes in England put an over-sized caliper and rotor on their XBR500s (basically the US version of the Honda GB500) and HAD to run a fork brace or the machine had bad front-end flex. At 41mm the forks on the SH are somewhat thin for its size and you might get strange effects by running just one caliper. (The Buell had 43mm.)
I'd love to just run one caliper on the SH at some point, especially if I ever get the nerve up to make it naked and could shed 30lbs from the bike.
Look forward to more pictures!
Randy
11-05-2009, 06:16 PM
#44
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i see its for sale now.
http://austin.craigslist.org/mcy/1453400021.html
http://austin.craigslist.org/mcy/1453400021.html
11-06-2009, 06:02 AM
#48
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i see its for sale now.
http://austin.craigslist.org/mcy/1453400021.html
http://austin.craigslist.org/mcy/1453400021.html
That's a bummer. I was kind of hoping to see how this turned out!
11-06-2009, 03:36 PM
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It seems to me that the best thing to do in the rear is to lengthen the swingarm.
It would give you a softer suspension, for a given spring rate, longer travel with the stock shock length and would be way easier to do than modifiying the linkage.
Then you can shim the shock to moify the swingarm angle/rear ride height to try and get the head tube angle right.
You'll probably have a lot of trail, but dirtbikes do. That's why you don't steer them like a street bike.
It would give you a softer suspension, for a given spring rate, longer travel with the stock shock length and would be way easier to do than modifiying the linkage.
Then you can shim the shock to moify the swingarm angle/rear ride height to try and get the head tube angle right.
You'll probably have a lot of trail, but dirtbikes do. That's why you don't steer them like a street bike.
11-06-2009, 04:10 PM
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11-06-2009, 06:13 PM
#56
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Do you have any plans to increase the spring rates? With the weight of a Superhawk sitting on enduro forks (soft) and a lengthened swingarm, you'll be halfway through the suspension travel before you're even moving. Perhaps something you might want to consider...
Cheers
Cheers
11-06-2009, 06:48 PM
#58
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I totally dig the Zuki stricker, I guess it's there to make some scandal and it does well 
It would be fun to see how it responds to longer suspension, it could be a fun dirt road arrow and be somehow flickable if you keep the swingarm short.
It would be fun to see how it responds to longer suspension, it could be a fun dirt road arrow and be somehow flickable if you keep the swingarm short.
11-17-2009, 07:07 PM
#60
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Random update: I pulled the exhaust in order to repack it and found the carbon fiber to be blown out. Looks like I need to try to find some epoxy to spread in there to strengthen it again.
