Pilot powers rock!
08-26-2007, 05:47 PM
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Pilot powers rock!
Just in case you didn't know. 
My front Battlax was due for a replacement, and I decided to go with a pilot power because I have a tendency to get aggresive on the street. All I can say is......wow!!! You can hardly tell paintedlines from the road! My battlax's would cause the bike to slip so to speak every time my tires would hit a yellow/white line. It's hard to explain, it just made the whole front end seem rock solid. I cannot WAIT for my rear battlax to wear out, so I can get a power on the rear! With the pilot up front, I can now feel the back tire wanting to break traction. I had an awesome run today, just awesome. Did about 300 miles total. 
My front Battlax was due for a replacement, and I decided to go with a pilot power because I have a tendency to get aggresive on the street. All I can say is......wow!!! You can hardly tell paintedlines from the road! My battlax's would cause the bike to slip so to speak every time my tires would hit a yellow/white line. It's hard to explain, it just made the whole front end seem rock solid. I cannot WAIT for my rear battlax to wear out, so I can get a power on the rear! With the pilot up front, I can now feel the back tire wanting to break traction. I had an awesome run today, just awesome. Did about 300 miles total.
08-26-2007, 07:33 PM
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Don't get overconfident. That rear Bridgestone could come around on you any time. I've never been a fan of them, btw. Suggestion: Get a new Pilot rear, get your camera, do a big smoky burnout, and post pics on the forum.
08-27-2007, 08:56 AM
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Perhaps the prejudice against Bridgestones stems from the past when they weren't as good as some other tires performance wise. The modern Bridgestones are just fine. The last set of Bridgestones I ran were as good as anything I've ever used, with the exception of the Pilot Powers that are on the hawk now.
Casey Stoner likes 'em.
Casey Stoner likes 'em.
08-27-2007, 10:17 AM
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I recently put a battelax on as a rear... I dont like it... good thing I got a deal on it.. was running PPs Front and rear.. now just front. I was cornering the other day, hit a small set of cuts in the road.. 2-3 maybe.. I felt it slide a little.. my PPs never did that.. (same spot, speed, temp, distance ran)... and the BB tends to build a funny compound when it heats up... mixture of road debris and tire pieces... and when you scrape it off cold, it's like tar... center of the tread.. I'm going back to my PPs...
08-27-2007, 12:04 PM
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i ran a set of OEM 014's this past winter / spring. they sucked. i even did a trackday on them 
i never had them brake loose but there is just ZERO feedback, so i never pushed them.
it was heaven to get the corsa dragons back on her !
tim
i never had them brake loose but there is just ZERO feedback, so i never pushed them.
it was heaven to get the corsa dragons back on her !
tim
08-27-2007, 03:16 PM
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Perhaps the prejudice against Bridgestones stems from the past when they weren't as good as some other tires performance wise. The modern Bridgestones are just fine. The last set of Bridgestones I ran were as good as anything I've ever used, with the exception of the Pilot Powers that are on the hawk now.
Casey Stoner likes 'em.
Casey Stoner likes 'em.
I'm just wondering if the Pierelli coursa III's are good enough better than the powers to justfiy the extra cost? And the wear issue. A friend of mine has Corsa III's on his 1098, and he's done a few track days with them. Just not sure if they can match the mileage of the PP's. I'll ask him next time I see him.
08-27-2007, 03:32 PM
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One of the guy's I work with has a CBR1000RR with the Corsa III's and used to swear by them until he rode the SH with the PP's. He went this weekend and bought PP's. Got to see the Pirelli get smoked real good before hand too.
08-27-2007, 04:15 PM
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I've ran 3 battlax's on my hawk so far (Just this year). One front, and two rears. Unless the past counts includes March of '07 and on...they still can't hold a candle to pilot powers. The difference is just incredible. I can take each turn at least 5 mph faster than I previously could, and that's still running a battlax on the rear!
I'm just wondering if the Pierelli coursa III's are good enough better than the powers to justfiy the extra cost? And the wear issue. A friend of mine has Corsa III's on his 1098, and he's done a few track days with them. Just not sure if they can match the mileage of the PP's. I'll ask him next time I see him.
I'm just wondering if the Pierelli coursa III's are good enough better than the powers to justfiy the extra cost? And the wear issue. A friend of mine has Corsa III's on his 1098, and he's done a few track days with them. Just not sure if they can match the mileage of the PP's. I'll ask him next time I see him.
I just don't like sweeping generalizations about tires or tire brands, that's all. In my experience, they're not valid; These days all the manufacturers make tires that are more than adequate for street riding. They all have somewhat different feel, wear and grip characteristics, and Tire M may give you more confidence than Tire B, but blanket statements like "Bridgestones suck" aren't valid.
08-27-2007, 04:54 PM
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08-27-2007, 06:35 PM
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Are you kidding me!? I know expert CCS and WERA racers that use the corsa III and there's no way the PP can hold a candle to them.
08-27-2007, 07:26 PM
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i love my corsa III's that i just put on this season. they totally changed the bike and for the better. the cofidence they give me when entering a corner... trailing the brakes in hard... damn they are just great. made the bike steer faster too compaired to my old metzler m1.
08-27-2007, 08:12 PM
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Which Battlax? Bridgestone makes about half a dozen or more tires they call Battlax.
I just don't like sweeping generalizations about tires or tire brands, that's all. In my experience, they're not valid; These days all the manufacturers make tires that are more than adequate for street riding. They all have somewhat different feel, wear and grip characteristics, and Tire M may give you more confidence than Tire B, but blanket statements like "Bridgestones suck" aren't valid.
I just don't like sweeping generalizations about tires or tire brands, that's all. In my experience, they're not valid; These days all the manufacturers make tires that are more than adequate for street riding. They all have somewhat different feel, wear and grip characteristics, and Tire M may give you more confidence than Tire B, but blanket statements like "Bridgestones suck" aren't valid.
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08-28-2007, 10:00 AM
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I didn't agree with him either, after riding his bike with the Corsa III's I am considering them for the next set. Tried to talk him out of it, but he was dead set on the PP's. I also have good friends that run in WERA and they told him he was an idiot. I guess to each his own though.
08-28-2007, 06:29 PM
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The Corsa's MAYBE better than the Pilots, but you need to ask yourself, for the riding you do, how much more performance do I need? That said, I'm a Power fiend and would only consider the Pirelli's if they were on sale for the same price.
08-28-2007, 06:37 PM
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IMHO After trying the CorsaIII's there was definitely more feedback from them than the PP's. I have a tendency to get agressive on the backroads from time to time, but for the most part more sensible riding. i have no complaint on the PP's, but was amazed at the difference in feel with the CorsaIII's. Probably stick with the PP's for a while simply cause I am used to them and the economics as well.
08-28-2007, 08:41 PM
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As long as we're talking tires I actually used the Conti Hypersport tires at my last track weekend and was very impressed with them. Great feedback no sliding and they wore really well. Usually I'll kill a set of tires in 2 days at the track but it looks like I'll be able to get 2 more out of them. I tried them out because I read about them when they used them in the Master Bike shoot out glad I did.
08-28-2007, 08:47 PM
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I love my PP, though I can't seem to get the air pressure set right, one time they feel great, then another time they feel slippery, not really sure, temps changed back and forth on me so much...ah, whatever... and I am sure the oil I am running in the bike plays a role in how the tires feel...right? LOL
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