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Old 02-13-2019, 12:25 PM
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Buying a 2000 VTR1000, What to look for

Im going this weekend to look at a very clean looking 2000 vtr1000 with approx 20k miles. Seller sent me a video of the engine starting cold until he turned the choke off and revving slightly. Everything sounded great and the bike looked amazing for its age. What else can i check or should check while im there to pick it up. I knot the CCT ( i believe thats it) can go bad in these but is there a way to tell of they are failing or would there be a noise? Thanks for any input.
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Re. CCT the tensioners are binary - they either work as intended or don't - very little or no gray area between a functioning unsnapped spring and a broken CCT resulting in engine damage...



CCT broken spring.

Have a read the threads on the subject as to what's you choose as the best preventative solution or if you want to trust to luck. Don't let that put you off as once addressed the VTR is a very reliable bike, easy to work on and with plenty of spares available as for a Honda it was relatively unchanged in production for just under a decade.

Also check the R/R to see if a later finned version is fitted or ideally a FH MOSFET. And even with low miles while good in some respects could mean tires, brake pads, fluids + filters, C&S & other service parts could be due a overdue a change based on age rather miles covered.
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Re. CCT the tensioners are binary - they either work as intended or don't - very little or no gray area between a functioning unsnapped spring and a broken CCT resulting in engine damage...



CCT broken spring.

Have a read the threads on the subject as to what's you choose as the best preventative solution or if you want to trust to luck. Don't let that put you off as once addressed the VTR is a very reliable bike, easy to work on and with plenty of spares available as for a Honda it was relatively unchanged in production for just under a decade.

Also check the R/R to see if a later finned version is fitted or ideally a FH MOSFET. And even with low miles while good in some respects could mean tires, brake pads, fluids + filters, C&S & other service parts could be due a overdue a change based on age rather miles covered.
i appreciate the input. The tires and brakes were reportedly replaced recently. I will be checking them over as well as the chain. Ill read into the fixes for the CCT and see what option would work best.
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What Wicky said pretty much sums up the potencial big issues, other than that, in addition just look for the usual suspects, scraps, road rash from going down, cracks in plastics, lights and so on, though it's cosmetic, it all adds up.
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Just look for whats been mentioned. I have a 00' hawk and love it
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Originally Posted by NHSH View Post
What Wicky said pretty much sums up the potencial big issues, other than that, in addition just look for the usual suspects, scraps, road rash from going down, cracks in plastics, lights and so on, though it's cosmetic, it all adds up.
The bike it self appears pretty clean as far as scraped and marks go. Ill be checking over the cosmetic items as well as driving it down the road through all the gears to make sure its running properly. The only thing it doesnt have is the front turn signals. They had apparently been removed for some reason years back but the seller has told me the wiring is still there for it. So ill be checking that as well. Im very mechanically inclined and im not afraid to do some work, i just want to make this isnt a pile of junk.
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Welcome and you are on the right forum. The members here will guide you down the road to enjoy your Super Hawk to it's fullest. Search and Enjoy!
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on a side note. Did honda ever redesign the cct? Instead of going the manual route maybe they made a redesign and fixed the issue and i could just throw a new set of tensioners in.
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You never know... Some people say yes, other not... I was a little reticent at the beginning to change them for manuals, but finally I did it, and Im happy now. You are not depending of one spring ( that fails) for breaking your engine. Totally recommended..
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Welcome to the forum Jon. Where ya from?
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Originally Posted by jon570 View Post
on a side note. Did honda ever redesign the cct? Instead of going the manual route maybe they made a redesign and fixed the issue and i could just throw a new set of tensioners in.
No. All production years use the same part number.

14520-MBB-013

You might want to consider this option https://www.vtr1000.org/phpBB3/viewt...p?f=31&t=19416
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Welcome to the forum Jon. Where ya from?
Western maryland. Cumberland. Not too awful far from you.
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Originally Posted by jon570 View Post
on a side note. Did honda ever redesign the cct? Instead of going the manual route maybe they made a redesign and fixed the issue and i could just throw a new set of tensioners in.
My opinion based on looking at more than a dozen across the whole range of years is NO, never updated, never changed .. Now that said, its possible the actual part supplier changed the spring material, heat treating, or something else that can not be easily observed by eye. The reason I still do not think even that happened is,,, there was not a new part number issued,,which would happen even if it was just a revision of the same design.

In addition to what others suggested, Id suggest taking a volt meter with you. The bike model is known for failed regulators, corroded, melted regulator connectors and a sure sign of either would be low charging voltage.

If you buy, highly suggest upgrading the RR to a modern MOSFET type to avoid the failed RR that is a pretty sure bet to happen at some point. Sometimes it just cost you an RR and battery, sometimes that and a wiring harness repair, ECU and cluster replacement.
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My opinion based on looking at more than a dozen across the whole range of years is NO, never updated, never changed .. Now that said, its possible the actual part supplier changed the spring material, heat treating, or something else that can not be easily observed by eye. The reason I still do not think even that happened is,,, there was not a new part number issued,,which would happen even if it was just a revision of the same design.

In addition to what others suggested, Id suggest taking a volt meter with you. The bike model is known for failed regulators, corroded, melted regulator connectors and a sure sign of either would be low charging voltage.

If you buy, highly suggest upgrading the RR to a modern MOSFET type to avoid the failed RR that is a pretty sure bet to happen at some point. Sometimes it just cost you an RR and battery, sometimes that and a wiring harness repair, ECU and cluster replacement.
Is there any good place to buy a kit that is a one stop shop? I have ordered manual tensioners ( i can return if i dont end up buying the bike).
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Like others have said the manual CCT are the way to go so good to hear you ordered those. I have an '02 with the upgraded/ finned OEM R/R and its original but it certainly wouldn't be a bad idea to swap it in the near future... Other than those things they are nearly bullet-proof, only had to do regular maintenance on my 17 y/o baby. If it doesn't work out you surely can find a good one here or other sources - it's a blast to own one!
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Originally Posted by jon570 View Post
Is there any good place to buy a kit that is a one stop shop? I have ordered manual tensioners ( i can return if i dont end up buying the bike).
I know a guy

https://www.superhawkforum.com/forum...48-00-a-34792/

And for your reading pleasure
https://www.superhawkforum.com/forum...why-how-25117/


Reading displeasure
https://www.superhawkforum.com/forum...archid=1527809

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