Bikers vs Rang Rover
10-12-2013, 08:59 AM
#61
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The only people who are silly and unreasonable are those who just take NYPD's statements at face value and assume them to be correct.
The rover most likely had tire damage from, oh I don't know...running over motorcycles?
THINK for once in your life maybe? If they only gave him a minor beating for running people over, why are you assuming they would have gone after his wife and family for a small bump? If he stopped when instructed (or better yet, BEFORE he ran into one of them) he would have been just fine.
The sheep-like mentality of just listening to everything you read and not making a judgement for yourself is why we are in the government predicament also, stupid people deserve to be taken advantage of.
10-12-2013, 09:02 AM
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There are like 9+ million people in this city. This was a few nuts. Its like blaming the US for the wacky shootings. Those are nutjobs.
What you guys don't comprehend is what its like for a solitary biker in NYC. You park & get knocked over. You get your foot run over at stoplight. Open manholes. People opening door into you, etc.
I am not condoning this vid that I haven't seen. Just saying shizzy that saying you deserve to get run over for merely impeding cager progress is dumber than the bikers in the vid.
What you guys don't comprehend is what its like for a solitary biker in NYC. You park & get knocked over. You get your foot run over at stoplight. Open manholes. People opening door into you, etc.
I am not condoning this vid that I haven't seen. Just saying shizzy that saying you deserve to get run over for merely impeding cager progress is dumber than the bikers in the vid.
10-12-2013, 09:57 AM
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"If he stopped when instructed (or better yet, BEFORE he ran into one of them) he would have..."
What authority did they have to "instruct" the driver to stop?
What authority did they have to "instruct" the driver to stop?
10-12-2013, 10:29 AM
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I read at least one of his tires were slashed before he decided to gun it. Hell, I wouldn't have stopped in the traffic jam like he did. I'd have thrown it in reverse and did a U. No way I would have stopped in that situation. When you are a parent, nothing will stop you from trying to protect your family.
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10-12-2013, 10:37 AM
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Nowhere in the video are they slashing tires at any time.
The only people who are silly and unreasonable are those who just take NYPD's statements at face value and assume them to be correct.
The rover most likely had tire damage from, oh I don't know...running over motorcycles?
THINK for once in your life maybe? If they only gave him a minor beating for running people over, why are you assuming they would have gone after his wife and family for a small bump? If he stopped when instructed (or better yet, BEFORE he ran into one of them) he would have been just fine.
The sheep-like mentality of just listening to everything you read and not making a judgement for yourself is why we are in the government predicament also, stupid people deserve to be taken advantage of.
The only people who are silly and unreasonable are those who just take NYPD's statements at face value and assume them to be correct.
The rover most likely had tire damage from, oh I don't know...running over motorcycles?
THINK for once in your life maybe? If they only gave him a minor beating for running people over, why are you assuming they would have gone after his wife and family for a small bump? If he stopped when instructed (or better yet, BEFORE he ran into one of them) he would have been just fine.
The sheep-like mentality of just listening to everything you read and not making a judgement for yourself is why we are in the government predicament also, stupid people deserve to be taken advantage of.
From what you post,, I think it would be helpful for you personally, and generally for those subjected to reading what you post.
Once completed revisit this discussion and use your new found education and not your emotions and preconceived bias to enlighten us.
10-12-2013, 12:37 PM
#66
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Perhaps you should seek out a reading comprehension course at your local junior collage..Consider courses in critical thinking and research as well.
From what you post,, I think it would be helpful for you personally, and generally for those subjected to reading what you post.
Once completed revisit this discussion and use your new found education and not your emotions and preconceived bias to enlighten us.
From what you post,, I think it would be helpful for you personally, and generally for those subjected to reading what you post.
Once completed revisit this discussion and use your new found education and not your emotions and preconceived bias to enlighten us.
All I can say is don't "defend" your family by running over anyone I know, or you'll be dead, not treated for minor injuries and released.
For what it's worth, Old Yeller was on point by saying that if your riding buddies are behaving like this, find new buddies, or slap some sense into them, but that doesn't make what the driver did morally right.
10-12-2013, 03:00 PM
#67
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Nowhere in the video are they slashing tires at any time.
The only people who are silly and unreasonable are those who just take NYPD's statements at face value and assume them to be correct.
The rover most likely had tire damage from, oh I don't know...running over motorcycles?
THINK for once in your life maybe? If they only gave him a minor beating for running people over, why are you assuming they would have gone after his wife and family for a small bump? If he stopped when instructed (or better yet, BEFORE he ran into one of them) he would have been just fine.
The sheep-like mentality of just listening to everything you read and not making a judgement for yourself is why we are in the government predicament also, stupid people deserve to be taken advantage of.
The only people who are silly and unreasonable are those who just take NYPD's statements at face value and assume them to be correct.
The rover most likely had tire damage from, oh I don't know...running over motorcycles?
THINK for once in your life maybe? If they only gave him a minor beating for running people over, why are you assuming they would have gone after his wife and family for a small bump? If he stopped when instructed (or better yet, BEFORE he ran into one of them) he would have been just fine.
The sheep-like mentality of just listening to everything you read and not making a judgement for yourself is why we are in the government predicament also, stupid people deserve to be taken advantage of.
ok ill flame here. you are a ******* assclown moron. " a minor beating"....."stopped when instructed"......"ASSUMING they would have gone after his wife and family"....."stupid people deserve to be taken advantage of".....hahaha....**** you.
10-13-2013, 03:49 PM
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I'll put this here.
Canada... it looks like even the initial reports of the guy brake checking the rover getting hit are incorrect. The rover injured exactly no one before he was surrounded. He had no way out and was being intimidated. I know that it is humbling to take a step back once you take a hard stance on the internet, but this is a hard one to defend, man. If there were any reason to believe the Rover acted unnecessarily, I would change my mind but there just is no way of defending the riders.
Smokinjoe... this link has images of the events and show no one getting run over (just don't click on the video) Like was said before, not only would it be helpful if you saw the video before you made any comments, but this incident is not in any way going to make NYC roads safer or people less aggressive towards bikers. If drivers didn't have any reason to be angry at bikers before, they will if they see this video.
The Jawa Report: Bikers Versus SUV (Updated: New Images Added)
Canada... it looks like even the initial reports of the guy brake checking the rover getting hit are incorrect. The rover injured exactly no one before he was surrounded. He had no way out and was being intimidated. I know that it is humbling to take a step back once you take a hard stance on the internet, but this is a hard one to defend, man. If there were any reason to believe the Rover acted unnecessarily, I would change my mind but there just is no way of defending the riders.
Smokinjoe... this link has images of the events and show no one getting run over (just don't click on the video) Like was said before, not only would it be helpful if you saw the video before you made any comments, but this incident is not in any way going to make NYC roads safer or people less aggressive towards bikers. If drivers didn't have any reason to be angry at bikers before, they will if they see this video.
The Jawa Report: Bikers Versus SUV (Updated: New Images Added)
10-13-2013, 05:25 PM
#69
Well take off, eh.
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As the OP, I would like to request that the moderators close this thread. I apologize to everyone for having put this on the forum, since I feel it has become way to personal.
It is agreed that we disagree. We all have are personal opinions about the video, and, whatever our thoughts on the subject is, is fine with me.
Perhaps we can concentrate our energy on the important threads and subjects, like, 'What oil is best ?' 'What's the best R/R to use ?' or 'Is it better to use regular or super unleaded ?'
Here, let me start. Is red really faster then my gun metal grey ?
It is agreed that we disagree. We all have are personal opinions about the video, and, whatever our thoughts on the subject is, is fine with me.
Perhaps we can concentrate our energy on the important threads and subjects, like, 'What oil is best ?' 'What's the best R/R to use ?' or 'Is it better to use regular or super unleaded ?'
Here, let me start. Is red really faster then my gun metal grey ?
10-13-2013, 05:33 PM
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Closed it will remain.
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