Bikers vs Rang Rover
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I applaud the SUV driver. first for running one of the guys over, second, for having the self-restraint to not kill them, which I would have done. They should be lucky it wasn't me. I'd have started shooting with my .40 and not stopped until all my mags were empty. then I'd have rolled on swerving to hit as many of them that were brave enough to have stayed around.
Can you tell I have no tolerance for such stupidity?
Can you tell I have no tolerance for such stupidity?
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What a bunch of ****. These "bikers" totally give motorcyclists a bad rep. Everyone involved on 2 wheels should have their license revoked period. Those that slashed tires/broke windows/beat the hell out of the guy in the suv should have charges pressed.
From what I heard(hearsay), right after punting the guy who hit the brakes in front of him, the cage had his tires slashed. Now, what would you do? Sit there calmly and wait for the po-po with thugs surrounding you...w/ at least knives (wife and small infant in the auto)?
Pisses me off actually. It's like gang warfare on 2 wheels.
From what I heard(hearsay), right after punting the guy who hit the brakes in front of him, the cage had his tires slashed. Now, what would you do? Sit there calmly and wait for the po-po with thugs surrounding you...w/ at least knives (wife and small infant in the auto)?
Pisses me off actually. It's like gang warfare on 2 wheels.
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I applaud the SUV driver. first for running one of the guys over, second, for having the self-restraint to not kill them, which I would have done. They should be lucky it wasn't me. I'd have started shooting with my .40 and not stopped until all my mags were empty. then I'd have rolled on swerving to hit as many of them that were brave enough to have stayed around.
Can you tell I have no tolerance for such stupidity?
Can you tell I have no tolerance for such stupidity?
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Edit: [/thread jack]
I was discussing this on the YZF forum as well and agree, not only would I have fled as he did but I would have unloaded a few mags of .45 rounds as well.
From the hearsay on the other forum the bikers were trying to stop traffic so they could have the open road ahead to stunt on, which pisses me off even more
Last edited by insulinboy; Oct 8, 2013 at 03:58 PM.
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I sure wouldn't trust NYPD if I lived in NYC. A few ruin it for many on so many levels. LEO thought he'd just get away with it, now to see what NYPD does with his employment. I bet he'll get suspended with pay while the investigation continues, then reinstated loosing rank, but not fired once the case is closed.
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Everyone involved on 2 wheels should have their license revoked period.
What annoys me is that the authorities have seemed to have turned a blind eye to this and not intervened until after the incident where the guy has been beaten and knifed in front of his wife and kid. These gangs are no better than terrorists as this is what they do....go out and terrorise people.
Here's a link to a lot more footage of the whole mob out and about. These where quickly taken down off of youtube by the (for want of a better word) biker/hoon that uploaded them. I can't believe they did not get spotted and reported by at least one cop car or anyone out on patrol.
Deleted Videos Show Asshat Bikers Before Range Rover Attack
We had the whole discussion on this a week ago in the UK. At first I thought the driver was as much too blame as the gang. But then I didn't think about the possibility of guns being a threat or realise that these where actually gangs purposely out to rob and terrorise people. They are like street gangs on two wheels out on the rampage.
(:-})
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More likely half or more of the 20 bikers would then be carrying as well and the whole family would be dead.
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It sucks being a young person and having to be subjected to the disgust of everyone in the public who doesn't like "crotch rocket thugs." I had to explain to one guy leaving the store that these bikes are sport tourers and not even the same engine design.
As well as how many of them actually had licensed, registered, and insured bikes? Or that I ride by myself and am more afraid of his truck then he of my tiny little bike. Why would you ever pull in front of a massive SUV?
Sad that I am a thug now for how long....
As well as how many of them actually had licensed, registered, and insured bikes? Or that I ride by myself and am more afraid of his truck then he of my tiny little bike. Why would you ever pull in front of a massive SUV?
Sad that I am a thug now for how long....
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It sucks being a young person and having to be subjected to the disgust of everyone in the public who doesn't like "crotch rocket thugs." I had to explain to one guy leaving the store that these bikes are sport tourers and not even the same engine design.
As well as how many of them actually had licensed, registered, and insured bikes? Or that I ride by myself and am more afraid of his truck then he of my tiny little bike. Why would you ever pull in front of a massive SUV?
Sad that I am a thug now for how long....
As well as how many of them actually had licensed, registered, and insured bikes? Or that I ride by myself and am more afraid of his truck then he of my tiny little bike. Why would you ever pull in front of a massive SUV?
Sad that I am a thug now for how long....
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That's if they have one. I wonder how many of them are riding on stolen bikes. From what I have gathered these are just a bike gang that go out purposely to cause chaos, mug people and have their so called fun.
What annoys me is that the authorities have seemed to have turned a blind eye to this and not intervened until after the incident where the guy has been beaten and knifed in front of his wife and kid. These gangs are no better than terrorists as this is what they do....go out and terrorise people.
Here's a link to a lot more footage of the whole mob out and about. These where quickly taken down off of youtube by the (for want of a better word) biker/hoon that uploaded them. I can't believe they did not get spotted and reported by at least one cop car or anyone out on patrol.
Deleted Videos Show Asshat Bikers Before Range Rover Attack
We had the whole discussion on this a week ago in the UK. At first I thought the driver was as much too blame as the gang. But then I didn't think about the possibility of guns being a threat or realise that these where actually gangs purposely out to rob and terrorise people. They are like street gangs on two wheels out on the rampage.
(:-})
What annoys me is that the authorities have seemed to have turned a blind eye to this and not intervened until after the incident where the guy has been beaten and knifed in front of his wife and kid. These gangs are no better than terrorists as this is what they do....go out and terrorise people.
Here's a link to a lot more footage of the whole mob out and about. These where quickly taken down off of youtube by the (for want of a better word) biker/hoon that uploaded them. I can't believe they did not get spotted and reported by at least one cop car or anyone out on patrol.
Deleted Videos Show Asshat Bikers Before Range Rover Attack
We had the whole discussion on this a week ago in the UK. At first I thought the driver was as much too blame as the gang. But then I didn't think about the possibility of guns being a threat or realise that these where actually gangs purposely out to rob and terrorise people. They are like street gangs on two wheels out on the rampage.
(:-})
First one is "my new girlfriend put the bike on her credit card".
Second is, paid in cash and you don't want to know where the cash is from.
Third is, the true hard working man that paid for there bikes with hard earn money and there for you will only see these guys on the side lines, but you will not see them getting involved with the real action.
As for the authorities... I don't think they turned a blind eye, it is not easy to control a mob like that, especially when they turn up unexpectedly. NYC doe's not have a CCTV monitoring system as good as in London, where every street corner is covered.
It is a shame that these groups put a bad rep' for the rest of us.
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Well take off, eh.
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My question to all of this is, where's the police ? I live in a place where
you don't even have the time to think of doing anything like this, you'll have about 20 cop cars running after you.
Bike will be seized on the spot, licence revoked, never ending list of traffic violations, and this is just the tip of the iceberg. Jail time is a strong possibility.
you don't even have the time to think of doing anything like this, you'll have about 20 cop cars running after you.
Bike will be seized on the spot, licence revoked, never ending list of traffic violations, and this is just the tip of the iceberg. Jail time is a strong possibility.
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Yeah, I read that one:
Originally Posted by Salty Dog
Americans with Guns
Americans with Bikes
Seems little difference.
The report shows what a pack of disrespectful hoons they really are.
Shame they picked on an Asian I.T. worker on a Sunday drive with his wife and child (speaks volumes on how tough these bikers are) .... some "Good ol Boys" in a F-250 Dual Cab from the local Bandidos chapter coming off a Saturday night bender when the Meth ran out would have been a funny outcome.
Americans with Bikes
Seems little difference.
The report shows what a pack of disrespectful hoons they really are.
Shame they picked on an Asian I.T. worker on a Sunday drive with his wife and child (speaks volumes on how tough these bikers are) .... some "Good ol Boys" in a F-250 Dual Cab from the local Bandidos chapter coming off a Saturday night bender when the Meth ran out would have been a funny outcome.
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Since when? you can get your CCW in NY, its just extremely difficult and the process is long and expensive. I have several friends still living in NY from when I lived there that have their CCW permits.
Edit: [/thread jack]
I was discussing this on the YZF forum as well and agree, not only would I have fled as he did but I would have unloaded a few mags of .45 rounds as well.
From the hearsay on the other forum the bikers were trying to stop traffic so they could have the open road ahead to stunt on, which pisses me off even more
Edit: [/thread jack]
I was discussing this on the YZF forum as well and agree, not only would I have fled as he did but I would have unloaded a few mags of .45 rounds as well.
From the hearsay on the other forum the bikers were trying to stop traffic so they could have the open road ahead to stunt on, which pisses me off even more
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Well apparently you CAN get a carry permit, which I didn't know, but it is very difficult, which I think it should be. I'm sure most of them wouldn't qualify for a permit anyways. I just strongly feel that law abiding citizens should be able to protect themselves, especially in a time like this.
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Well apparently you CAN get a carry permit, which I didn't know, but it is very difficult, which I think it should be. I'm sure most of them wouldn't qualify for a permit anyways. I just strongly feel that law abiding citizens should be able to protect themselves, especially in a time like this.
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Hell, if I were carrying as the driver, the last thing I would do is present my weapon and start firing. There is no way that a group of riders that big would become safer as a result. Plus, realistically, you'd have a lot more explaining to do as far as self defense. I honestly think the driver did the best thing possible under stress. I'd be headed straight for a police station (which he may have been trying to do) to sort things out there.
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NYC doe's not have a CCTV monitoring system as good as in London, where every street corner is covered.
(:-})
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NBC News report about the undercover cop involved.
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I was hoping this incident didn't hit this forum...can't say I'm surprised by the old people reacting with a knee jerk response like "I would run them over too!"
The driver of the SUV is a ***** and a coward and he is lucky he didn't get killed or get his family killed with his stupid decisions.
The bikers? ******** who just might succeed in convincing people to pass even more restrictive laws that negatively affect the rest of us.
But those of you backing up a decision to drive over them, or saying you would shoot them all...well? you're just dumb, there's no other way of looking at it.
First of all, you murder fantasy morons, if this had happened in a carry state, escalating it to gun violence would have immediately resulted in the deaths of the occupants of the vehicle, because hooligan bikers can and do carry.
Second, the SUV driver escalated the confrontation by not slowing down and leaving them alone.
- You can disagree with this all you want, you're wrong if you do, all he had to do was slow down, pull over, and call the cops. INSTEAD, he kept going, angry that he was being held up and forced over.
- Want to tell me the bikers deserved to get run over for impeding traffic? Ok, I'll accept your opinion, except it still wasn't the smart thing to do.
- He only got a very minor beating after running down several people. The people who say he was in danger just after the initial collision are wrong. If he had just stopped and faced the music after bumping the guy, or better yet didn't engage them...him and his family would be fine, and several of the bikers may still have gotten arrested for their ludicrous behavior.
I'm so ******* tired of seeing other motorcyclists joining the general public in hating these people and saying they deserved to get run over, or that they would do the same.
Grow a pair and try analyzing a situation with your head instead of your fearful emotions.
The driver of the SUV is a ***** and a coward and he is lucky he didn't get killed or get his family killed with his stupid decisions.
The bikers? ******** who just might succeed in convincing people to pass even more restrictive laws that negatively affect the rest of us.
But those of you backing up a decision to drive over them, or saying you would shoot them all...well? you're just dumb, there's no other way of looking at it.
First of all, you murder fantasy morons, if this had happened in a carry state, escalating it to gun violence would have immediately resulted in the deaths of the occupants of the vehicle, because hooligan bikers can and do carry.
Second, the SUV driver escalated the confrontation by not slowing down and leaving them alone.
- You can disagree with this all you want, you're wrong if you do, all he had to do was slow down, pull over, and call the cops. INSTEAD, he kept going, angry that he was being held up and forced over.
- Want to tell me the bikers deserved to get run over for impeding traffic? Ok, I'll accept your opinion, except it still wasn't the smart thing to do.
- He only got a very minor beating after running down several people. The people who say he was in danger just after the initial collision are wrong. If he had just stopped and faced the music after bumping the guy, or better yet didn't engage them...him and his family would be fine, and several of the bikers may still have gotten arrested for their ludicrous behavior.
I'm so ******* tired of seeing other motorcyclists joining the general public in hating these people and saying they deserved to get run over, or that they would do the same.
Grow a pair and try analyzing a situation with your head instead of your fearful emotions.
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Good call...and I agree... You can't fix stupid.. The bikers actions and those that poorly attempt to defend them and condemn a man protecting his family can not be reasoned with or be expected to have an honest discussion.
Last edited by E.Marquez; Oct 9, 2013 at 05:24 PM.
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Also, if you'll read my post I already said this (an I would guess there's more than one firearm in that group even though it's a very restricted state).
He only got a very minor beating after running down several people. The people who say he was in danger just after the initial collision are wrong. If he had just stopped and faced the music after bumping the guy, or better yet didn't engage them...him and his family would be fine, and several of the bikers may still have gotten arrested for their ludicrous behavior.
Now guess how old I am
Edit: I like insulinboy's post better, haha!
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I had posted something similar to your post then decided to delete it because arguing on the internet just gets my blood pressure up and I already have enough heart problems 
Edited to add: I also never thought I'd live long enough to be called an "old guy"
Edited to add: I also never thought I'd live long enough to be called an "old guy"
