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Old Jun 6, 2023 | 04:53 PM
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Ongoing clutch issues

Back a while ago clutch started slipping because seemingly too much pressure was building up in the line. I then proceeded to rebuild the slave cyl., but nothing changed.

Just this week I decided to rebuild the master cyl. I have been swapping old and new parts in the master with various results, but no working clutch.

I think the original problem, was a totally plugged compensation port. I managed to clean that out, but now I'm having the opposite problem from before. I can move fluid through the system and out the slave bleeder, but I can't seem to generate sufficient pressure to actually move the clutch. Pressure out of the master seems good, when I fill with fluid off the bike, I can generate some good squirting straight out of where the banjo port is.

It's a pretty simple system but I can't figure out what the problem is. Should I pull the slave off (again) to have a look?
Old Jun 7, 2023 | 06:27 AM
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Have you tried pushing fluid from the slave to the master.
Old Jun 7, 2023 | 06:50 AM
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Isn't there a metal pin/rod behind the slave cylinder?? Perhaps ensure that is well lubricated, sounds like something may be stuck.
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Originally Posted by xeris
Have you tried pushing fluid from the slave to the master.
No I haven't. Seems like that would be hard to do, but I suppose I could hook up some compressed air and push it through the slave bleeder?
WIth the line disconnected at the slave, I put the slave banjo in my mouth and blew, to check for restrictions. I did get some air bubbles coming out the master when I did that.

I just bought a new/used line, and will swap that out as soon as I get it. I doubt that will fix the problem, but it's a cheap experiment.
Old Jun 7, 2023 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by B R
No I haven't. Seems like that would be hard to do, but I suppose I could hook up some compressed air and push it through the slave bleeder?
WIth the line disconnected at the slave, I put the slave banjo in my mouth and blew, to check for restrictions. I did get some air bubbles coming out the master when I did that.

I just bought a new/used line, and will swap that out as soon as I get it. I doubt that will fix the problem, but it's a cheap experiment.
How does brake fluid taste?
Don't use compressed air, you don't want to introduce more air into the system. Seems I recall someone using a very large syringe, or something similar. I have used a Mityvac to pull from the slave.
Old Jun 9, 2023 | 04:19 PM
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Get an really good HD syringe and reverse bleed, from the slave up. When systems get finicky, this method works great. Happens more frequently when lines become completely drained too.
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Well I got the new/used line and swapped that out. Then went about bleeding the same normal way from the master. It took a little while but I eventually got good pressure and clutch engagement is back to normal. Next step is a test ride to see if it still slips under hard accel. If it does, then I'll have to put a new set of discs in.
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So did about 60 miles yesterday, and clutch didn't slip at all under various combinations of gears, rpms, and throttle. Great success! Was the old line part of the problem? I don't know for sure, but at least all the hydraulics have been rebuilt now, and it cost less than $100 for all the materials. Spent many hours of my time on it though .

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