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Old 09-29-2008, 06:01 PM
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new tire break in period.

I know I am beating this new tire question **** to death, but I finally put my new rear on today (Dunlop Roadsmart) and I know they are really slick at first. How long until I can ride it hard again. I have heard of people going down when they put new rubber on due to the film on a new tire, especially in a corner. Again sorry for on the tire stuff.
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Be sure there isn't any mounting lube left on the tire - washing the tire will help if so. Otherwise, make sure its inflated properly, ride it till its warmed up (accelaration and braking do a good job) and then gradually increase the lean angle till you are confident in the tires. There isn't much else to it - the tire once warm, is ready. All this other stuff is just nonsense. I see a lot of riders zigging back and forth 'trying to get some heat in the tires' - and that might be dangerous as you can be leaning a lot BEFORE they are actually warmed up. Braking/accelerating are more effective ways to get heat into them.
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Cliby is right the best thing to help with getting the release agent out is heat. A few hundred miles gradually leaning over more and more till you are where you were before.
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Like cliby said, wash the tire because the mounting lube will work it's way out to the tread with centrifugal force. Gradually increase lean angle to increasingly scuff the tread. I did one run on Ortega, 60 miles including moderate twisties, after riding home from the dealer the day before.

Just as important, what is the condition of the front?
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I put new tires on front and back this summer. I slowly increased lean angles. I say 150-300 miles and they should be good to go.
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Simple, mount the tires go to your favorite close by parking lot and do numerous 1st gear slow speed figure eights and stick your foot down. Get the sucker leaned all the way over supporting yourself and even dragging your foot.

Always does the trick for me.
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all good advice. i put shinko tires on my bike and i was able to ride them fairly hard right away. i didnt push them all the way just because i have always heard how slick new tires are. but i was leaning all the way over the first day i rode on them and fairly fast as well.
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So I put on a set of new tires on the track at Loudon on a cool autumn day and by the end of the FIRST LAP I have my knee sliding all the way through the turns. The track is 1.65 miles long. Each turn just lean a little more. I would say a couple tire rotations & its scrubbed.
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Old 09-30-2008, 02:43 AM
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It's a matter of taking off the first layer, as stated before, the more heat the quicker the fresh rubber will be uncovered. You could even use a grinder with a wire brush to scrub the surface for a off road track day, but a careful lap or slalom trough the streets is more than enough, you can lean the bike without without putting much traction on the tire, just do the opposite as dragging knee around the corners, stand on the engine off the seat and you'll be eating chicken strips while following grocery grannie
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Old 09-30-2008, 03:06 AM
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Don't do what this guy did

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UEg1-6iEeo

Seen it happen regularly at a dealers as bikes with new tires drove off despite warnings - Still, a good earner for the shop....
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That was rediculous. I have mounted near a 100 set of tires and followed with a break in. At the shop, we break the tires in for the owner unless they don't want us "using up the tread" on them. I have never, and even with potent gsxr 750's, never had a tire break loose. NEVER. What the hell was on that tire?????? he didn't even give it throttle, what hp was he making when it broke loose, 5-10hp. I start our by finding a smooth piece of road and swerve back in forth increasing the lean angle as I go. Never had it slip.
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it really cracks me up how guys like that get fully dressed in leathers so they look like they know what they're doing in expensive stuff, and then the camera man quickly tries to move the camera so no one ever see's the footage. he probably had lube all over the tire or something. morons.
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Old 09-30-2008, 11:08 AM
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Vega,

What did that roadsmart cost you? I think we go to the same CG.
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Originally Posted by Scoutpilot
Vega,

What did that roadsmart cost you? I think we go to the same CG.
I bought it online and got it for $145 otd. CG wanted something close to $160 for it.
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Old 09-30-2008, 09:29 PM
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this months sport rider has an article about the tire break in myth pick it up or read it in the store.... i had to buy it it has the KTM in their..... mmmmhhhhmmmmm KTMmmmmm
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Tires have a preservative on them to keep them from prematurely drying out on the shelf. I "dry" mine off by warming up the tire on a casual ride for several miles depending on the outside temp and gradually weaving back and forth. Once it has been heated up well and a majority of the contact patch has touched pavement it is ready for turns. Just be gentle on it when getting all the way over cause you probably couldn't get that far by weaving. Heat is the best way.

I flat tracked out of the dealership the other day in Fort Worth after getting a new tire and forgetting about it . That was a firm reminder to take it easy.
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Old 09-30-2008, 09:41 PM
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Speaking tires, CG is having a sale on Diablos (standard) in Oct for 180 front and rear. Crap for that price, I might get 2 sets unless someone here convinces me that they suck.
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Originally Posted by Scoutpilot
Speaking tires, CG is having a sale on Diablos (standard) in Oct for 180 front and rear. Crap for that price, I might get 2 sets unless someone here convinces me that they suck.
I've got a front on my VFR that has 7K on it and doesn't even look used at all. Coast to coast in the last 3 weeks and no flat spot. Plus a trackday along the way with no problems, knees down. I'll probably get another set too.
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Originally Posted by Hotbrakes
I've got a front on my VFR that has 7K on it and doesn't even look used at all. Coast to coast in the last 3 weeks and no flat spot. Plus a trackday along the way with no problems, knees down. I'll probably get another set too.
Coast to Coast!?!?! Dude, I'm jealous!!!
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Tomorrow I will visit the Atlantic completing the ride. Get on your bike and do it. Make sure you have a good new rear tire.
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Originally Posted by Hotbrakes
Tomorrow I will visit the Atlantic completing the ride. Get on your bike and do it. Make sure you have a good new rear tire.
Are you doing it on the Hawk? Hope you have a Corbin.

Yeah, I'll have to try it someday.
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When I got my rear tire I lost the rear MX style, I just "forgot" I had a new tire and leaned the thing well into my 2 inch chicken strip, oops.
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Old 10-01-2008, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Scoutpilot
Are you doing it on the Hawk? Hope you have a Corbin.

Yeah, I'll have to try it someday.
I wish but I took the VFR with Walmart seat beads. Don't want to be a threadjacker so I'll post a ride report when I get home with lots of pics.
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yeah......the honda place where I get tires says take it easy for the first hundred miles or so.

you can start to feel them get more grippy as time goes by.
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I just got new tires on today, BT016R's and I've only gone about 35 miles and they're pretty well broken in. Build up heat in a straight line then just go really easy on your favorite windy road. Just lean and don't accelerate through. Don't rush it though. I stepped out around mile 17 and about crapped my pants
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A few miles and a few corners with gradually more angle and I think you're set.
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Holy ****! I bet that guy feels stupid. Good thing he was in his suit.
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Originally Posted by Scoutpilot
Speaking tires, CG is having a sale on Diablos (standard) in Oct for 180 front and rear. Crap for that price, I might get 2 sets unless someone here convinces me that they suck.
I'm missing something. What does "CG" stand for?
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Originally Posted by Erik S.
I'm missing something. What does "CG" stand for?

Cycle Gear. Parts and accessorys store.
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