Re my previous post--Aussie wants help.
Thanks to the forum members for the tips and advice(and humour) so far,but does anyone actually use delo400+in their Superhawk????????????
A positive confirmation is all I need to give it a try!
Hope someone can comment!

Thanks again---
Cheers-Eric

 

Per your previous post, CI-4+ Delo is still available in Oz. Not here. With the exception of Walmart/Super Tech 15w40 (which I currently have in my VTR's crankcase), all 15w40 mineral oil available in the U.S. is rated CJ, with reduced Zinc, Phos and detergent. I'm not aware of anyone on this forum using Delo. The two most popular "non motorcycle specific" oils used by folks here would be Mobil 1 15w50 and Shell Rotella 15w40 (Rimula 15w40 CI4+ down under). My personal opinion?-- any CI4+ rated 15w40 is an excellent oil for the VTR, or any other motorcycle. The jury is still out on the CJ 15w40. If you don't wish to waste your money on "motorcycle" oil, I'd stock up on whatever CI4+ 15w40 I could get the best price on.

 

KK1-Thanks again for the reply--Yep I understand this time,and thanks for the advice.Just to let you know,I contacted Shell techs in Oz and they told me no Rotella product is availible here and do not use Rimula.Its damn hard getting the right info----If your sure Rotella is actually Rimula ------please confirm?
A big thank you, to you(and the other guys)for your help.
I think my bike is starting to smell like a garbage truck---phew!
Cheers--eric

 

I run Delo 400 - 15w40

 

I can't confirm that Rimula Super is the same as Rotella, but since it's 15w40 and CI4+ I wouldn't feel I needed to. I'll bet it is though. Shell doesn't market a "motorcycle oil" here in the U.S., and has a portion of the Rotella forum dedicated to motorcycle use. Shell Au does market motorcycle specific oil, so they wouldn't admit that Rimula Super is Rotella and in any case would insist you buy the more expensive "specially formulated for motorcycles" product.

 

I've used it before in a pinch, and just to see how it would do. I had no problems but shifting wasn't as smooth as with the Mobil1 15-50.

 

Chevron doesn't make a "motorcycle oil" and Delo is what they recommend for motorcycle use. I haven't had any problems with it so far, I'm using it because I can buy it from work at cost and one gallon is an almost perfect fill for the VTR.

 

+1 on the shifting with the mobil 1. Previous owner was using Silkolene 20w50. After reading this forum, I tried the mobil 1, wow feels like a whole different bike. Just me being me, I still wanna try the rotella for comparison.

 

I used Quaker State 15-40 Diesel this season, running good, I heard that pretty much all Diesel formulas are good for motorcycles

 

While we're on this oil "thing", (by the way, I buy the Honda GN 4), the dealer's Parts Guy said that Honda is now "recommending" 10w 30 - main reason? EPA. Pretty poss poor when the manufacturers are changing they're oil specs because of emmissions. I don't even want to get into all the different 55 Gallon barrells of oil blends I have for all my Ford Diesel service trucks. (Now remember, This is a SH forum, so no wisecracks about owning Ford's....)

 

There's another angle to Honda recommending 10w30. Since all passenger car 10w30 is energy conserving, your choice is limited to Honda oil, or another high dollar boutique motorcycle oil.

There's another reason to avoid PCMO, even if it isn't energy conserving. The current ones, even the 10w40 and 20w50 have greatly reduced levels of zinc and phosphorous, below the minimum level set by JASO.

There are exceptions, like M1 15w50 marketed mostly for older and high performance V8s, which still has plenty of zinc and phos.

I think if you don't want to pay the premium for "motorcycle" oil, or even M1 15w50, the best oil is one of the 15w40 universals. Even the new "CJ" rated ones have plenty of zinc and phos for bike engines. And they aren't "energy conserving" either.

 

Energy saving is evil,very evil

 

I've been using Delo for years in my FZR, at least 20,000 miles. It seems fine.

 

Hey all,

Just changed my oil to Delo 400LE (CJ-4/SM CI-4 plus) from costco for the first time.......coming from castrol 4T moto 10w40. first run seems like ive lost a decent amount of engine braking and maybe some take off power? is my clutch slipping? or is my mind playing tricks on me? Is this something anyone else has experienced? does the fact alone that im using a heavier oil cause this? any comment guys?

thanks....

 

Out here in Oz I have used a diesel oil in my last 4 bikes without any adverse effects.

I have recommended this oil to many friends and they now swear by it too.

I used it in my TRX850, my FZR1000 my Aprilia Shiver and now the VTR.

I have never experienced any problems with slipping clutch and usually change my oil and filter every 3,000KLMs or there abouts.

The oil I use here is called Nulon Premium 15W-40 High Performance Diesel oil.

I can't remember the ratings although when I researched it about 6 years ago it fitted the requirements for an oil bath clutch.

I remember the trepidation that went along with the first oil change with this product, and also remember the satisfaction that I felt when I took that first ride and the gear change was soo much better.

I was also impressed with how the oil stayed clean looking between changes.

Previous to this oil I always used Motul, and paid through the nose for it.

I believe that there is some truth in the statement that a lot of oil companies use scare tactics when it comes to pitching their products at various segments of the automotive, motorcycle and marine markets.

I have covered approx 100,000Klms combined using diesel oil under a wide range of conditions and will continue to do so.

I urge anyone contemplating a switch to a diesel oil to research it thoroughly before deciding and make sure that it does not have any friction modifying addatives in it, as these are the ones that will give you clutch problems.

 

Update. Went on a few more runs and definitely noticed clutch slipping. So i changed oil again, this time to rotella 15w-40. great results. smooth shifting and a good bite on the clutch. happy so far. I'll update my experience after i put some miles on.

DO NOT use DELO400LE