Clutch or ??
06-28-2006, 05:21 AM
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Clutch or ??
Ok so my girlfriend just recently learned to ride on my SH and now i am noticing a bit of an issue. When i accellerate in any gear from 3k to about 5k i will pop out of gear. If i forget about it...expecially in traffic...makes for an interesting ride and a beautiful overrev sound. So did we fry the clutch or is this far worse?
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06-29-2006, 09:00 AM
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Doesn't sound good to me......don't you know never teach on your baby!! It sounds like a bent shift fork or ground gears, check this link for a little more info and maybe try and contact the member and see what they finally did. https://www.superhawkforum.com/forum...highlight=pops
06-29-2006, 06:08 PM
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For this to happen in every gear it doesn't indicate a bent shift fork. I'd be looking at the detent mechanism (my laptop shop manual is in the car and I can't remember what system is used.) I'll bet a hold down bolt came loose.
It wouldn't be the clutch either. But its probably the cheapest problem.
It wouldn't be the clutch either. But its probably the cheapest problem.
06-29-2006, 07:47 PM
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You're right Jschmidt I forgot he said any gear for it to be the shift fork it would be all three. Acording to the manual you're looking at one of the follwing, 1) worn gear dogs 2) worn gear shifter grove 3) bent shift fork shaft 4) broken shift drum stopper arm 5)worn or bent shift forks 6) broken drum stopper arm spring 7) broken gearshift spindle return spring. By looking at it, it looks like if the shift plates somehow got loose it could also cause it to come out of gear.
Download the manual and you can see it all for yourself and do the repair yourself if your confident in your abilities.
Download the manual and you can see it all for yourself and do the repair yourself if your confident in your abilities.
07-06-2006, 07:18 AM
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ok well i dont know if thats a bad thing or a good thing but i have hope now. Do you know if this is covered or where i can get a diagram of how it should be. I am underway now, so i cant just tear it apart but i would like to get as much info as i can. This will be the first time i tear into anything quite this complicated.
Thanks for all your help
Thanks for all your help
07-06-2006, 10:14 AM
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Good call on the detent mechanism. It is a roller on a spring-loaded arm that rides on a star-shaped cam on the end of the shift drum. If the bolt has come loose the roller can slip off of the cam. You should be able to feel a poitive detent when you run through the gears with the engine off.
You may be able to access the retainer bolt with a 5mm allen wrench without removing the clutch basket. I think it is directly visible when you remove the side cover. It is a shoulder bolt, so be sure the shoulder section is through the arm when it tightens. If the roller is off of the cam, it may be interesting to try and get it lifted back in to place with the clutch on. It may not be possible.
Then I would run through the gears again with the cover off (engine off, of course), to see if you are getting a positive detent.
You may be able to access the retainer bolt with a 5mm allen wrench without removing the clutch basket. I think it is directly visible when you remove the side cover. It is a shoulder bolt, so be sure the shoulder section is through the arm when it tightens. If the roller is off of the cam, it may be interesting to try and get it lifted back in to place with the clutch on. It may not be possible.
Then I would run through the gears again with the cover off (engine off, of course), to see if you are getting a positive detent.
07-06-2006, 10:56 AM
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http://www.powersportspro.com/partsfish/login.asp
Try to log on to this site and you will see the parts in the gearshift drum file.
Try to log on to this site and you will see the parts in the gearshift drum file.
07-06-2006, 11:23 AM
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I have the stock detent arm and spring from my '02 if you find yours is shot, pay the shipping and its yours... I changed mine out with the factory pro arm/spring at around 600 miles. I had to remove the clutch basket to change mine out but if it happens to just be loose or not in the right spot you may be able to fix with removing the basket.
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