2 sounds??
07-10-2012, 11:28 AM
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2 sounds??
2003 Superhawk 6800 miles. Stock cans with baffels removed, manual cct's, all fluids changed in June. Everything else stock.
I have two sounds I am trying to track down:
1. Sounds like when you open and close scissors repeatedly, that metal on metal sliding together. This sound occurs only when I am using the throttle. I was thinking CCT but would you hear it only when applying throttle, wouldn't you hear it at idle also if it was CCT being too tight?
2. Sounds like when you used to put cards in the spoke of your bike. This sound mainly occurs when I start from a stop in first gear. It is not a knock, more of a clapping/rapping sound. It goes away once up to speed or above about 2.5k rpm. It does not sound metal in any way. Could it be the plastic slides in the carbs? Any thoughts on how to quiet this?
Advice? Thanks!
I have two sounds I am trying to track down:
1. Sounds like when you open and close scissors repeatedly, that metal on metal sliding together. This sound occurs only when I am using the throttle. I was thinking CCT but would you hear it only when applying throttle, wouldn't you hear it at idle also if it was CCT being too tight?
2. Sounds like when you used to put cards in the spoke of your bike. This sound mainly occurs when I start from a stop in first gear. It is not a knock, more of a clapping/rapping sound. It goes away once up to speed or above about 2.5k rpm. It does not sound metal in any way. Could it be the plastic slides in the carbs? Any thoughts on how to quiet this?
Advice? Thanks!
07-10-2012, 06:06 PM
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These bikes can make all kinds of wierd noises. Some bikes more than others. No.1 sounds familiar, but mine did it at idle also. I would say carb slides. Carb sync might help. No.2 also sounds familiar. Is it a chugging noise, almost like a stick car taking off in too high of a gear? Also, i did notice that my bike made more wierd noises with debaffled stock pipes than it did with aftermarket exhaust.
07-10-2012, 06:40 PM
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Your chain will cause those symptoms. Kind of sounds like rocks bouncing around the engine? I had the same thing, it was only present when first starting out and went away within a few seconds. I changed my chain and sprockets and it went away.
07-10-2012, 06:57 PM
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Thanks for the input guys. I was thinking the chain was causing the one noise since it seems related to anytime I am using the throttle. I tried to tighten it up and also re-lubed it but it goes back to the same dried out rusty look. I keep the bike in the garage but ride every day to work and back so it sees quite a bit of road grim and dust. I would say a new chain is in order.
As for the carb slides. Mike (8541Hawk) mentioned to me when he was helping me with some carb shimming issues that the sound may be the slides. Any ideas how to eliminate those sounds? Would sanding the slides down or some kinds of grease work on those plastics? I am thinking it would not help much due to the sound being the slide slamming open and closed, but just trying to think of every option.
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As for the carb slides. Mike (8541Hawk) mentioned to me when he was helping me with some carb shimming issues that the sound may be the slides. Any ideas how to eliminate those sounds? Would sanding the slides down or some kinds of grease work on those plastics? I am thinking it would not help much due to the sound being the slide slamming open and closed, but just trying to think of every option.
Thanks
07-10-2012, 06:59 PM
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These bikes can make all kinds of wierd noises. Some bikes more than others. No.1 sounds familiar, but mine did it at idle also. I would say carb slides. Carb sync might help. No.2 also sounds familiar. Is it a chugging noise, almost like a stick car taking off in too high of a gear? Also, i did notice that my bike made more wierd noises with debaffled stock pipes than it did with aftermarket exhaust.
07-10-2012, 07:42 PM
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Maybe shorter slide springs would help if the slides are slamming shut too hard. Just a guess really. Changing only the spring force would likely throw off your newly calibrated setup. I do not think that slide noises are any indication of damage being done.
Is this noise new since you have done the carb modification, or was it happening before? Did you adjust the mixture screws for highest idle?
Is this noise new since you have done the carb modification, or was it happening before? Did you adjust the mixture screws for highest idle?
07-10-2012, 07:52 PM
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07-11-2012, 05:42 AM
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Maybe shorter slide springs would help if the slides are slamming shut too hard. Just a guess really. Changing only the spring force would likely throw off your newly calibrated setup. I do not think that slide noises are any indication of damage being done.
Is this noise new since you have done the carb modification, or was it happening before? Did you adjust the mixture screws for highest idle?
Is this noise new since you have done the carb modification, or was it happening before? Did you adjust the mixture screws for highest idle?
07-11-2012, 06:27 AM
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07-11-2012, 06:29 AM
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Thanks guys. That makes a lot of sense with the slides. Especially since they are plastic slamming into plastic, which is how it sounds. Not sure if I want to venture into adjusting spring length or not, getting rid of the lean cough has been a big enough headache at the moment, almost got it all gone!
07-11-2012, 06:37 AM
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Thanks guys. That makes a lot of sense with the slides. Especially since they are plastic slamming into plastic, which is how it sounds. Not sure if I want to venture into adjusting spring length or not, getting rid of the lean cough has been a big enough headache at the moment, almost got it all gone!
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