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Old 08-28-2007, 05:07 AM
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Facists

Saw kickinchicken's latest Shrillary sticker. ROTF. But at the same time I've been thinking about facism and its new purveyors in America after Robert Kennedy Jr. so famously lied about the definition of "facism" on Glenn Beck's show. He called Glenn a facist, and said that the American Heritage Dictionary defined facism as corporate power taking over government.
So I looked it up... In the American Heritage Dictionary. It mentions strong central authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls and suppression of opposition. Now we have the leadership of the Democratic Party. Notice, please, that I didn't say "all Democrats". Hill wants to take stuff from some for the common good? I'll beieve that she gives a rat's tail for the poor when she gets out of her office and helps the poor at HER expense rather than mine!
And the Dems are masters of regulation. There's a great line in a West Wing episode (Shutdown), where the Republican House Speaker says "We'll show them how little Amerca needs their (the Democrats') Deputy Director of Regulatory Intrusion."
It's almost scary watching the two parties argue about what's important for America, like watching two divorcing parents arguing in front of the kids about what's best for them. Except they're not concerned with what's best for them at all, but about winning the argument in the children's eyes. If enough people in EITHER party cared about America's safety, the southern border would already be fenced with towers, guard posts and National Guard backup in any area where the Border Patrol was having a problem. But we see by their acts and hear in their rhetoric that WE don't matter. Compared to illegal aliens, we are but second-class citizens. AND WE'RE THE ONES SIGNING THEIR PAYCHECKS, NOT THE ILLEGALS! If THAT ain't whacked, please tell me what is?
And so I give you the Republicans, conservative in name, but really the right wing of the Democratic Party. And the Dems, scarily sounding like Mao, Lenin, Mussolini and Hitler both in their "vision of America's future" and in their demonizing anyone who dares call them on their outrageous claims. We won't even get into the fact-deprived things that so many Dems stand for.
But when push comes to shove, facism always has to find a scapegoat to focus the people on in order to hide what they really want to do. With Hitler, it was the Jews, and we now have Germany opening a stark building that houses all of the Concetration Camp records of the Holocaust. So far, only relatives of Holocaust victims may enter to find the fate of their relatives.
But the proof is there of how every Jew died, all 6 million of them, all because Hitler needed a scapegoat to focus his people to do his will.
For the Democrats, that scapegoat will be Christians. I've already seen blogs and chatrooms filled with vitriolic hatred of Christians, as though they (including my wife and I) were the root of all evil in America.
How I wish I had never seen this day, to see my nation, once the most noble on Earth, reduced to following these shameful leaders.
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+1000 well stated!
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Christians AREN'T the root of all evil?
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Originally Posted by MisterMohawk
Christians AREN'T the root of all evil?
Man, are you on Crack?
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Originally Posted by futurehawk
Saw kickinchicken's latest Shrillary sticker. ROTF. But at the same time I've been thinking about facism and its new purveyors in America after Robert Kennedy Jr. so famously lied about the definition of "facism" on Glenn Beck's show. He called Glenn a facist, and said that the American Heritage Dictionary defined facism as corporate power taking over government.
So I looked it up... In the American Heritage Dictionary. It mentions strong central authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls and suppression of opposition. Now we have the leadership of the Democratic Party. Notice, please, that I didn't say "all Democrats". Hill wants to take stuff from some for the common good? I'll beieve that she gives a rat's tail for the poor when she gets out of her office and helps the poor at HER expense rather than mine!
And the Dems are masters of regulation. There's a great line in a West Wing episode (Shutdown), where the Republican House Speaker says "We'll show them how little Amerca needs their (the Democrats') Deputy Director of Regulatory Intrusion."
It's almost scary watching the two parties argue about what's important for America, like watching two divorcing parents arguing in front of the kids about what's best for them. Except they're not concerned with what's best for them at all, but about winning the argument in the children's eyes. If enough people in EITHER party cared about America's safety, the southern border would already be fenced with towers, guard posts and National Guard backup in any area where the Border Patrol was having a problem. But we see by their acts and hear in their rhetoric that WE don't matter. Compared to illegal aliens, we are but second-class citizens. AND WE'RE THE ONES SIGNING THEIR PAYCHECKS, NOT THE ILLEGALS! If THAT ain't whacked, please tell me what is?
And so I give you the Republicans, conservative in name, but really the right wing of the Democratic Party. And the Dems, scarily sounding like Mao, Lenin, Mussolini and Hitler both in their "vision of America's future" and in their demonizing anyone who dares call them on their outrageous claims. We won't even get into the fact-deprived things that so many Dems stand for.
But when push comes to shove, facism always has to find a scapegoat to focus the people on in order to hide what they really want to do. With Hitler, it was the Jews, and we now have Germany opening a stark building that houses all of the Concetration Camp records of the Holocaust. So far, only relatives of Holocaust victims may enter to find the fate of their relatives.
But the proof is there of how every Jew died, all 6 million of them, all because Hitler needed a scapegoat to focus his people to do his will.
For the Democrats, that scapegoat will be Christians. I've already seen blogs and chatrooms filled with vitriolic hatred of Christians, as though they (including my wife and I) were the root of all evil in America.
How I wish I had never seen this day, to see my nation, once the most noble on Earth, reduced to following these shameful leaders.
Very well said...
And let us not forget, in the end good shall be seen as evil, and evil as good..Kind of makes you wonder....hmmmm
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Originally Posted by MisterMohawk
Christians AREN'T the root of all evil?
You don't see Christians strapping bombs on their children, kidnapping, beheading, and destroying other religion's temples or places of worship, do you?

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Sad thing is, if Christians had as much commitment as those folks do, then perhaps they would not even exist...and I don't mean they would be killing anyone...jeez
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Originally Posted by futurehawk
Saw kickinchicken's latest Shrillary sticker. ROTF. But at the same time I've been thinking about facism and its new purveyors in America after Robert Kennedy Jr. so famously lied about the definition of "facism" on Glenn Beck's show. He called Glenn a facist, and said that the American Heritage Dictionary defined facism as corporate power taking over government.
So I looked it up... In the American Heritage Dictionary. It mentions strong central authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls and suppression of opposition. Now we have the leadership of the Democratic Party. Notice, please, that I didn't say "all Democrats". Hill wants to take stuff from some for the common good? I'll beieve that she gives a rat's tail for the poor when she gets out of her office and helps the poor at HER expense rather than mine!
And the Dems are masters of regulation. There's a great line in a West Wing episode (Shutdown), where the Republican House Speaker says "We'll show them how little Amerca needs their (the Democrats') Deputy Director of Regulatory Intrusion."
It's almost scary watching the two parties argue about what's important for America, like watching two divorcing parents arguing in front of the kids about what's best for them. Except they're not concerned with what's best for them at all, but about winning the argument in the children's eyes. If enough people in EITHER party cared about America's safety, the southern border would already be fenced with towers, guard posts and National Guard backup in any area where the Border Patrol was having a problem. But we see by their acts and hear in their rhetoric that WE don't matter. Compared to illegal aliens, we are but second-class citizens. AND WE'RE THE ONES SIGNING THEIR PAYCHECKS, NOT THE ILLEGALS! If THAT ain't whacked, please tell me what is?
And so I give you the Republicans, conservative in name, but really the right wing of the Democratic Party. And the Dems, scarily sounding like Mao, Lenin, Mussolini and Hitler both in their "vision of America's future" and in their demonizing anyone who dares call them on their outrageous claims. We won't even get into the fact-deprived things that so many Dems stand for.
But when push comes to shove, facism always has to find a scapegoat to focus the people on in order to hide what they really want to do. With Hitler, it was the Jews, and we now have Germany opening a stark building that houses all of the Concetration Camp records of the Holocaust. So far, only relatives of Holocaust victims may enter to find the fate of their relatives.
But the proof is there of how every Jew died, all 6 million of them, all because Hitler needed a scapegoat to focus his people to do his will.
For the Democrats, that scapegoat will be Christians. I've already seen blogs and chatrooms filled with vitriolic hatred of Christians, as though they (including my wife and I) were the root of all evil in America.
How I wish I had never seen this day, to see my nation, once the most noble on Earth, reduced to following these shameful leaders.
The definition of fascism as the merger of corporate and government power comes from a quote wrongly attributed to Mussolini. At the end of the day, Fascism, Communism and Naziism are all variants of socialism--and all are characterized by the subordination of individual rights and freedoms to the interests of the state. This situation exists in the US today, and I couldn't agree with you more that our current "leaders" of both phony parties, which effectively comprise a duopoly, are both shameful and shameless.
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Old 08-29-2007, 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by kevink2
You don't see Christians strapping bombs on their children, kidnapping, beheading, and destroying other religion's temples or places of worship, do you?
It's been known. A little knowledge of history can be a useful thing.
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Old 08-29-2007, 11:10 PM
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Yeah. Unfortunately the current leader(s) of the GOP is/are New World Order Democrats with "R" after their name.

"Family values don't stop at the Rio Grande". If you wanted to hear some New Age dippy crap like that a generation ago, you'd have to go down to Peoples' Park and interview the hippie with the bongo drums.
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Old 08-29-2007, 11:28 PM
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PJay;

A knowledge of history is useful, but if you've seen widespread beheading and blowing people up in the name of Christ, you must be really old.

None of us, Christian or otherwise, are responsible for what other people did 500 or 1000 years ago.

Anybody who is upset about something that happened to them 1000 years ago should have gotten over it by maybe 950 years ago.
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Hmmmm, anyone heard of radical Christians killing abortion Dr's and blowing up clinics in the name of Jesus in the last decade? Nooo, I must be mistaken. Well someone just opened a can of worms.
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Yeah but that's one or two bad apples, not a movement.
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No the key word is "radical" which in any religion is a bad thing! When people think that thier religion is the ONLY religion and are willing to kill or be killed for it, something is deeply flawed with that group,(not as a whole but the radicals in that group).
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Originally Posted by superhawk22
No the key word is "radical" which in any religion is a bad thing! When people think that thier religion is the ONLY religion and are willing to kill or be killed for it, something is deeply flawed with that group,(not as a whole but the radicals in that group).
aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh worms...

Ok, I can agree to a certain extent, however, if you are not willing to die for your religion, then why have the religion in the first place...

Of course what I am refering to is let's say that eventually when our country starts lining up Christians and telling them to either denounce the Lord Jesus Christ or we are gonna chop your heads off, what you gonna do??? If you denounce then you burn in hell, if you don't then you get your head cut off...then you better be sure that you are a real Christian, or it would be a lost cause...

Ok, no more politics or Religion, cause ya'll are all wrong, I am the only one that is right...End O Story!!
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Ah, the "bad apples" argument. Yes, a perfectly good one to apply in defence of the Muslim societies being attacked, too.
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superhawk22;

Heard of people blowing up abortion clinics, killing abortion doctors?

In our country of 300 million people, 90% of whom self identify as Christian, in the last 20-30 years, I know of two. TWO!

How much better off would the world be if the number of muzzies who murdered in the name of Allah in the last 30 years was TWO!

Are you seriously trying to equate the organized slaughter of tens or hundreds of thousands of non muslims by jihadist muslims with the actions of two lone nutbags?

That would give a whole new meaning to the term "moral relativism".
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Originally Posted by kickinchicken996
aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh worms...

Ok, I can agree to a certain extent, however, if you are not willing to die for your religion, then why have the religion in the first place...

Of course what I am refering to is let's say that eventually when our country starts lining up Christians and telling them to either denounce the Lord Jesus Christ or we are gonna chop your heads off, what you gonna do??? If you denounce then you burn in hell, if you don't then you get your head cut off...then you better be sure that you are a real Christian, or it would be a lost cause...

Ok, no more politics or Religion, cause ya'll are all wrong, I am the only one that is right...End O Story!!
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Originally Posted by RK1
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Heard of people blowing up abortion clinics, killing abortion doctors?

In our country of 300 million people, 90% of whom self identify as Christian, in the last 20-30 years, I know of two. TWO!

How much better off would the world be if the number of muzzies who murdered in the name of Allah in the last 30 years was TWO!

Are you seriously trying to equate the organized slaughter of tens or hundreds of thousands of non muslims by jihadist muslims with the actions of two lone nutbags?

That would give a whole new meaning to the term "moral relativism".
1st off I'd like to see the census #'s because I think your % is a bit high and 2nd I think your # of 2 is very low and tens or hundreds of thousands!?!? Where are you getting your figures from anyway, do you really think that the majority of Muslims agree with the way the radicals are doing things....please.
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Originally Posted by RK1
superhawk22;

Heard of people blowing up abortion clinics, killing abortion doctors?

In our country of 300 million people, 90% of whom self identify as Christian, in the last 20-30 years, I know of two. TWO!

How much better off would the world be if the number of muzzies who murdered in the name of Allah in the last 30 years was TWO!

Are you seriously trying to equate the organized slaughter of tens or hundreds of thousands of non muslims by jihadist muslims with the actions of two lone nutbags?

That would give a whole new meaning to the term "moral relativism".
Interesting..I like where you are going with this...
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Originally Posted by superhawk22
1st off I'd like to see the census #'s because I think your % is a bit high and 2nd I think your # of 2 is very low and tens or hundreds of thousands!?!? Where are you getting your figures from anyway, do you really think that the majority of Muslims agree with the way the radicals are doing things....please.
Ever take a gander at there Qur'an?? I think that speaks for itself...
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Ever take a good hard look at the Bible, if you take everything in that book literally you'd think Christians are nut jobs too. Or do you think it's ok to stone your wife and kids to death for talking back?
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Originally Posted by superhawk22
Ever take a good hard look at the Bible, if you take everything in that book literally you'd think Christians are nut jobs too. Or do you think it's ok to stone your wife and kids to death for talking back?
I must have missed that, about stoning my wife and kids for talking back..but that is an idea...hmmm
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Darn it! I had spent alot of time on a post for this topic and it went "poof".....but I feel better to have ranted.....if only to myself! (There's a joke opening there somewhere!)
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Originally Posted by kickinchicken996
I must have missed that, about stoning my wife and kids for talking back..but that is an idea...hmmm
You know sometimes I wish we'd go back to a more simple time when smaking your bitch up was toatally acceptable. J/K
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Originally Posted by Duck007
Darn it! I had spent alot of time on a post for this topic and it went "poof".....but I feel better to have ranted.....if only to myself! (There's a joke opening there somewhere!)
I believe it's called ranterbation.
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Superhawk22;

I don't take everything in the Bible literally, most Christians don't either. Even the ones who claim they don't really. If they did, all the homos would have been stoned to death by now wouldn't they?

That is exactly the point. In Iran, Afghanistan etc., homos ARE stoned to death.
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Does that cause hairy finger tips instead of hairy palms?
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Originally Posted by Hawk9807
Does that cause hairy finger tips instead of hairy palms?
Wow, derailed....Houston we have a problem!!
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Originally Posted by RK1
Superhawk22;

I don't take everything in the Bible literally, most Christians don't either. Even the ones who claim they don't really. If they did, all the homos would have been stoned to death by now wouldn't they?

That is exactly the point. In Iran, Afghanistan etc., homos ARE stoned to death.
Aren't they refered to as sticks or something...isn't that where ****** came from? I could be way off, but whatever...
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