Sick of buying a battery...
08-06-2008, 08:12 AM
#31
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Post a photo of your battery so we know exactly what type your using.
Worst case scenario is you may have to purchase a new battery(due to improper charging method) and a new voltage regulator(cause hey, they just go bad). Most of us had to do this already. If not, put it in your budget for down the road.
Worst case scenario is you may have to purchase a new battery(due to improper charging method) and a new voltage regulator(cause hey, they just go bad). Most of us had to do this already. If not, put it in your budget for down the road.
08-07-2008, 10:29 AM
#34
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OK, you have a sealed-type battery going by the photo. Just a lesser quality compared to a Yuasa. Not that that one won't work, but you should have 12.2-13 volts of charge on it just sitting there. If you don't, go get a Yuasa battery. Treat yourself to a good battery and spend more time riding.
08-08-2008, 08:54 AM
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OK, you have a sealed-type battery going by the photo. Just a lesser quality compared to a Yuasa. Not that that one won't work, but you should have 12.2-13 volts of charge on it just sitting there. If you don't, go get a Yuasa battery. Treat yourself to a good battery and spend more time riding.
+1
And a Battery Tender makes a world of difference too.
Good Luck!
08-20-2008, 09:39 PM
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i'm back dudes, with no new news really, i got the batt back in the bike , and have not tested the r/r yet. gotta fix a flat 1st. hope to check it tommorrow and fix that flat. so i hope i can get the you guys back to help if i or other owners need it.
08-20-2008, 09:55 PM
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Hate to tell you this, but if the tire has a puncture its best to replace it if you're going to run it at speed. Otherwise get an internal plug type patch. That, of course, will require removing the tire from the rim.
08-21-2008, 08:11 AM
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Sounds like you need to take class in basic motorcycle repair or find a the expendable income to afford this sport by taking your bike to the dealership for repairs. We all like to cut corners when it comes to spending money on our bikes. But in consideration of safety, I recommend NOT plugging a motorcycle tire or using "slime". Unless it is to get you home until you can replace the tire. The reason for the not using a plug is the plys of the tire are flexed under normal riding conditions. A plug mounted from the outside has a greater chance of coming out versus a "patch plug" mounted from the inside. Slime is not good for streebikes because it is considered to be unstable and has a harder time keeping the wheel balanced. The best advice we could give would be to get a new tire and have it professionally mounted and balanced. To save a few bucks, take the wheel off your bike yourself and take it to the stealership.
08-21-2008, 12:23 PM
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glad i have tough skin. motojoe,i plugged 2 other rear tires-figured that was cool, since makers advertise the plugs [ i don't believe all ads], and it's not SLIME for cars - its designed for bikes and balances out the tires. i'm gonna make this short. read it at WeBay.
i don't know how to make a link [motojoe,show-me please], so copy and paste this.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HARLE...spagenameZWDVW
i don't know how to make a link [motojoe,show-me please], so copy and paste this.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HARLE...spagenameZWDVW
08-22-2008, 11:22 AM
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Another problem with slime is that it makes it near impossible to do an internal patch, thereby ruining the tire. It should only be used in an emergency, such as getting a flat at midnight in the bad part of town.
08-22-2008, 06:50 PM
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09-01-2008, 07:54 PM
#45
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WELL back to the batt sit-ation, i added water and rode it on 8-31, no problems , started good about 10x, i'll be checking the volts probly 2morrow. check back and see. i still think i'm gonna need a r/r. if i do i'll need some advice on which one.
09-03-2008, 01:14 PM
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you can put tubes in motorcycle tires. my hawk got a screw in one of my near new conti-attacks. so now its got a tube in the back tire. plugs are only garunteed up to 85mph, tubes dont alter the speed rating of a tire. a tube wil make the tire a bit stiffer though.
09-03-2008, 02:20 PM
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IIRC, putting a tube in a tubeless type tire will increase heat within the tire during riding and could push it past its safe limit. it may work, but I don't think i'd put total confidence in it personally
09-04-2008, 12:51 AM
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As it turns out, plugs will repeatedly stay in at over 150 mph and through winter and rain. Just use off-the-shelf self-vulcanizing. They can last the whole life of the tire. I have done this "experiment" many times on different tires with the same results. No one will recommend it out of fear (except me)but this is my testimony. Just in case anyone was wondering the limits
09-04-2008, 06:35 AM
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theres special tubes for use in tubeless tires, the local shop here gets then and garuntees them safe. they are a bit pricey but not as bad as a new tire, especialy when the tire in question was almost brand new.
09-04-2008, 07:48 AM
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09-04-2008, 09:45 AM
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09-04-2008, 09:51 AM
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As it turns out, plugs will repeatedly stay in at over 150 mph and through winter and rain. Just use off-the-shelf self-vulcanizing. They can last the whole life of the tire. I have done this "experiment" many times on different tires with the same results. No one will recommend it out of fear (except me)but this is my testimony. Just in case anyone was wondering the limits
09-04-2008, 05:38 PM
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$25.00 lawn mower battery from Lowes
I bought a $25 lawn mower battery just about 3 years ago and it is still going strong. I ride my SH to work everyday. I suspect it won't make it through this winter though. Batteries only last about 3 years.
I just made sure it could source enough current. I did have to modify by battery box since the battery is about 1/2" taller.
I just made sure it could source enough current. I did have to modify by battery box since the battery is about 1/2" taller.
09-05-2008, 08:07 AM
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FWIW on the Battery
My new-to-me '99 was not starting up easy. I commute to work (10 miles each way) and it'd take several tries, choke and no choke, to get the thing to fire up. The battery was only two years old and the R/R is apparently the original (27K miles). I decided to start with a clean slate and bought a new Yuasa and ordered a new R/R.
The mechanic at the shop talked me into a battery tender as well. Don't know if he knows any more than the members of this board, but per him: "Deltrans say that if you use a tender every day, you'll never have to buy a new battery. Don't know if its true or not, but I've had mine for 5 years and its still going strong." And then "The big V-twins need a lot of juice. I used to work in a Harley shop, and H/D recommend that you ride for 30 minutes minimum every time you fire up the bike- and longer if its cold."
I rode my 'Hawk home with the new battery (filled & charged 5 hours at the shop) 10 miles and plugged it into the tender. The "Junior" showed that it only had an 80% charge, and it took 6 hours to get back up to a full charge.
All FWIW
The mechanic at the shop talked me into a battery tender as well. Don't know if he knows any more than the members of this board, but per him: "Deltrans say that if you use a tender every day, you'll never have to buy a new battery. Don't know if its true or not, but I've had mine for 5 years and its still going strong." And then "The big V-twins need a lot of juice. I used to work in a Harley shop, and H/D recommend that you ride for 30 minutes minimum every time you fire up the bike- and longer if its cold."
I rode my 'Hawk home with the new battery (filled & charged 5 hours at the shop) 10 miles and plugged it into the tender. The "Junior" showed that it only had an 80% charge, and it took 6 hours to get back up to a full charge.
All FWIW
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09-05-2008, 08:19 AM
#57
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Well... parts of what he said is true, other parts are debatable...
The fact is that our large twin engine does need a lot of juice at start up... Just compare our batteries CCA to what an IL4 needs...
Also, short drives around town does mean that you draw more out of the battery when starting than you then charge it before stopping... Also starting when cold does takes more juice... A lot more...
As for not having to buy a new battery ever... well... Let's just agree that it does delay ageing of the battery...
The fact is that our large twin engine does need a lot of juice at start up... Just compare our batteries CCA to what an IL4 needs...
Also, short drives around town does mean that you draw more out of the battery when starting than you then charge it before stopping... Also starting when cold does takes more juice... A lot more...
As for not having to buy a new battery ever... well... Let's just agree that it does delay ageing of the battery...
09-05-2008, 07:01 PM
#58
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Tweety - Agreed on the "forever battery" idea. Just read about the board & LED indicator you made for the charging system. Have you made any more? Do you have a price for shipping one to California? I'm interested.
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