jschmidt

Seems like another solution in search of a problem. Well, at least on my bike.

Hawkrider

It's in the Knowledge Base.

Stumpy

Yep Yep shift kit installed much better used the star wheel also. I have also found out that with the stock rearsets 'new ones not installed yet' that if you make the shifter rod longer but not by much 'part where your foot hits it' keeps your foot from sliping off with my track boots on during trackdays or anytime your wearing them I guss.

RickB

I have the detent kit, (spring and ball bearing arm) from Factory pro and it made a big difference in the shifting of my SH... think it was around $80

Scooberhawk

I'm guessing for you mechanically apt folk, it took under 2 hours, and probably closer to an hour..?

shayne

I work slowly and carefully, so I would say that two hours would be close to the mark. I spent a fair bit of time cleaning gasket surfaces etc to make sure I would get no leaks. My bike also leans over on the stand a lot due to a rear shock spacer I have. This means I didn't have to drain the oil out first. Standard bikes might not be able to do this.

I would also reccommend the shifter mod of rotating the linkage on the spline. Works well. As does replacing the shift rod "ball and cup" joints. Install heim joints on each end and you will notice there is no more play in the shift rod.

Each of these mods is a factor in a great gearshift. It all adds up. When I got my bike I couldn't believe how bad the shifting was. Now I never give it a second thought.

scottiemann

i just ordered the shift kit for my SH which i'm in the middle of doin a ton of work to... so hopefully it gets rid of my missed shifts.:-D

one thing i did a while ago to help deter missed shifts was to lower the gear toe shift closer to my boot...it helped a little

E.Marquez

Paul Thede Race Tech founder has this saying "The best you've ridden is the best you know".

And it as true here.
You don’t know what you don’t know. Just because you have no problems with your shifter, does not mean it cannot be better.
And it can… A lot.
Adding a tight tolerance spherical rod end to the shift linkage, and the Factory Pro Evo Star shift kit, consisting of all three of their available shift parts, Shift Star, Shift Detent arm/w micro bearing, shift detent spring. It is an excellent mod, even a novice rider will notice and enjoy.

StoneJrW

I did the "shorter shifting Hawk" mod last week and I think it works really well and at no cost either.

fundgh

I "attempted" to do the Shorter Shifting Mod, but it appears as if the previous owner may have already done this. Can anyone say if the stock arrangement has the two levers parallel? I didn't notice much difference when I moved the specified 1 tooth on the spline, but they weren't parallel to begin with so I am guessing it has already been done. I am looking at rear-sets (for other reasons) and I am hoping that helps shift action as well.

Hawkrider

I don't think the stock linkage will handle two splines. You will run out of adjustment before you get the shift lever back to where it's supposed to be.

fundgh

SO, am I to understand that the shift shaft lever and the pedal lever are nowhere near parallel stock and after the mod?

G-Money0420

What would I do for excitement if I didn't kick into a false Neutral every now and then?

Scooberhawk

It makes me look like a freakin rookie. I mean, I still consider myself somewhat of a beginner, 5 years later, but it's embarrassing to rev up multiple times trying to click the stupid thing into second gear. <click> <vroooom> <click> <vrooom> <clunk> <braaaaAAAAA>

Scooberhawk

I have a question. Has anyone ridden with the Evo kit and the regular FactoryPro kit (not the $40 Factory kit). Is there much of a difference? I plan to buy one of the two kits, but the EVO kit is almost $200 bucks. I'm sure the FactoryPro kit is $80 better than stock, but is the Evo kit $100 better than the FactoryPro kit?

E.Marquez

I think there is some confusion.. Probable mine..

Factory Pro makes both items you’re talking about.

There are three choices,
Kit 1 Shift Detent arm/w micro bearing, shift detent spring.
Part 2 Shift Star
Kit 2 Shift Star, Shift Detent arm/w micro bearing, shift detent spring.
All are made by (or for) Factory Pro

To answer your question…. Nope, I installed all three parts, never tried using just half the kit. ( I bought Kit 2)
So all I can say is…. The price was worth the results… To me. ( but I cheated, and used my MODERATOR discount at another site, so paid a bunch less then $200)

Scooberhawk

The 3 kits are here. I value your input, that it was worth it for you. I just wonder if the EVO shift star makes that much difference. I kinda wonder most which makes more of a difference for 1-2 shifting, although I am plain curious about the shift star in general. It must make the tranny seem less clunky.. I dunno. Those thoughts come second to which is the best value.

fundgh

The factory Pro web site has a cool little video of "what happens when you move the lever" The funny thing, is the guy has a hickup going from first to second, which is why I want the kit! However, I do have this to add: For those of you who don't where boots when you ride, get some. Shifting is much different with boots vs. sneakers. I went out for a quick ride the other night with Tennie's on, and missed many shifts due the lack of leverage and the soft toes. I am still looking for improved shifting though, and would like to know from someone who has first hand knowledge as to how much difference the star makes...anyone?

USAFrider

I am also curious as I'm on the verge of purchasing the shift kit. If it does nothing I would hate to spend my money and time on it.

fundgh

Apparently nobody actually has knowledge of this. I may have to take it upon myself to do investigation. I will buy the kit and conduct the tests. It may be too much work to try each component one at a time, but it would at least settle this question. Has anyone put the FP star and stock star side to side and noticed any major difference?

cliby

I put the 3 items in my bike when modifying the engine. The two stars compare similar to those illustrated on the website - the VTR star is much closer to the FP star however than some other stock ones I've seen. I noticed a big difference in general with the shifting - slicker, quieter, less effort. It does not have much affect on the 1-2 shifting clunk. I think that has more to do with the large difference in ratio between 1st and 2nd gear and the relatively heavy flywheel effect on the midrange especially (my impressions at least).

fundgh

This is good feedback, thanks! I don't really have a problem with the shifting above 2nd gear. I don't really know that I want to invest now that you have chimed in. Thanks! If I get some spare cash, I might go that direction, but for now stock it is. Or maybe I will go for the spring and detent arm.