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Old 04-16-2009, 09:52 PM
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Exhaust Question...

Sorry if this has been covered before,but couldn't find any info..
The restrictor in the header pipe,got some questions...
1.Why is it there?
2.Is there any benefit in removing it?
3.Whats the best way too remove it,just grind it out?
4.Does removal require re-jetting?
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1. Lowest bidder fabrication?
2. Slightly evens exhaust between cans.
3. Just grind it out.
4. No.
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Old 04-17-2009, 07:30 PM
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+1 on all accounts.
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Old 04-17-2009, 07:37 PM
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Gentlemen, thankyou ! Was hoping to get the exhaust cleaned up and mounted this weekend and actually go for a ride,but alas I'm on my way to Phoenix with a load of imported liquor. Such is the life in long haul trucking..

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Originally Posted by Galaxieman
1. Lowest bidder fabrication?
2. Slightly evens exhaust between cans.
3. Just grind it out.
4. No.

1. Wrong, it's meant to be there by design.
2. Nope, in fact it hurts performance. It's whole purpose is to even out the flow, if you remove it then all of the flow tries to go out one pipe.
3. Don't remove it!
4. Not if you leave it there where it belongs!


Much of this info came from Roger at Revolution Racing in the UK. He's done tons of VTR dyno work and I trust his opinion.
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Originally Posted by JamieDaugherty
1. Wrong, it's meant to be there by design.
2. Nope, in fact it hurts performance. It's whole purpose is to even out the flow, if you remove it then all of the flow tries to go out one pipe.
3. Don't remove it!
4. Not if you leave it there where it belongs!


Much of this info came from Roger at Revolution Racing in the UK. He's done tons of VTR dyno work and I trust his opinion.
Thanks Jamie, I had planned to leave it alone after all.Didn't see the point of messing with it for no performance gain. Cheers!!
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Just to add to this, I have a full Moriwaki system (only used the headers though) and the mufflers are not the same. The R/H muffler has a restricter welded in the the pipe between the collector and muffler. The L/H muffler does not. Looks like a method to balance the gas flow to me, just like the standard collector, as Jamie suggests.
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Sure, but balance the flow it does not. Start your bike on a cold morning and see which side the white exhaust (vapor) comes out of. Which can heats up more? Left side. That restriction is too big to "even" out the flow.

Bottom line: If you can't leave **** alone like me then take it out. It doesn't hurt anything and certainly can't make anything worse. If you sleep well at night knowing that Honda put it there (intentionally or not) then leave it the f%*k alone.
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Originally Posted by Hawkrider
Sure, but balance the flow it does not. Start your bike on a cold morning and see which side the white exhaust (vapor) comes out of. Which can heats up more? Left side. That restriction is too big to "even" out the flow.
You mean the Moriwaki set-up here Greg?

I can't test it, as I did not use those mufflers (they were damaged). I used Staintunes.

So if the restrictor they built into the right hand muffler is not to balance gas flow, then what else can it be for? I can't think of another possibility. It is in the link pipe that is welded to the muffler. Nicely made too, so they must have had a good reason to do it.
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Originally Posted by Hawkrider
Sure, but balance the flow it does not. Start your bike on a cold morning and see which side the white exhaust (vapor) comes out of. Which can heats up more? Left side. That restriction is too big to "even" out the flow.

Exactly!!! Take that same morning and crack the throttle and hold the rpm at 2500-3000. What happens then? The flow comes out of both pipes evenly! This restrictor in fact does balance out the flow between the two pipes.
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Old 04-19-2009, 06:14 AM
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This may be a sound issue, gases need to get out of there, to me a single low restriction exhaust would be enough, the the strong pulses of a 500cc cylinder exhausting is hard to slow down in a single exhaust, unless you make it huge, or spread it in two. I see no other reasons to restrict flow. The bundle of snakes is already doing a good job restriction wise
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Old 04-20-2009, 10:35 PM
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just to get my 2 cents in my buddy has a 2008 Yamaha FZ6 and his aftermarket also has a obstruction on the right side can to even the flow
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Originally Posted by JamieDaugherty
Exactly!!! Take that same morning and crack the throttle and hold the rpm at 2500-3000. What happens then? The flow comes out of both pipes evenly! This restrictor in fact does balance out the flow between the two pipes.
So please explain why the left pipe is always hotter than the right one then, even after running above idle.

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You mean the Moriwaki set-up here Greg?
Nope, I was referring to the stock system.
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I don't have any answers, but I, like Greg, have noticed that the right pipe always runs cooler.
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Originally Posted by Hawkrider
So please explain why the left pipe is always hotter than the right one then, even after running above idle.

Mine are not different temperatures, at least not that I can tell. They are both hot enough to burn your skin so it's tough to get a "feel" for any difference.
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It was designed that way for smugglers ...
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is there any difference performance or otherwise? If not, is the restriction there to primarily even out the flow? If it is there to merely even out the flow, then you have to ask yourself, do you really care that exhaust gases exit evenly? If you do, then leave the restriciton there. If you don't care about the symetry, then cut the SB out.
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