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Old 10-16-2013, 12:28 PM
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Video question (camera mount question really)

So I bought a tank mount for the bike to try and use one of my old HD camera's instead of forking out the cash for a go pro. I mounted the mount with some foam washers underneath it but I'm still getting a lot of vibration in the video. Anybody have any suggestions or do I just need to suck it up and buy a gopro?

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Old 10-16-2013, 01:04 PM
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Better then go pro, buy a Drift...
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Old 10-16-2013, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Jack Flash View Post
Better then go pro, buy a Drift...

+1 The Drift is a really nice camera.
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Is it from engine vibration or road vibration? If its engine, you can always buy a "me too" bike with an inline 4 lol
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Newer cameras frequently have image stabilization software built in.

Back in the old school days, I stuck my VHS-C camera on a tank bag with a rolled up towel inside, then ran a bungee net over it. That worked pretty well for the time.

Doesn't help that the Hawk is a large displacement twin.
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Old 10-16-2013, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 996thehawk View Post
Is it from engine vibration or road vibration? If its engine, you can always buy a "me too" bike with an inline 4 lol
Its engine vibration.. And actually my YZF600 was worse

Edit: went to double check my image stabilization was actually on and it was.. but it doesn't work in 1080, only in 720 and below.. Yeah, maybe the next one will come out better

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Old 10-19-2013, 02:14 PM
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Contour roam 2 ,for me mounted on RHS of fairing near air inlet.

No probs at all.
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I had this issue with my Go Pro setup (as well as an earlier rigid mount) and was able to reduce it substantially by adding rubber shims under the stock rubber spacers on the sides of the gas tank. The stock rubber bits don't sit firm against the frame so the tank has some side to side wobble that really causes a lot of shake at certain RPMs.
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Adam, save the money for a new one. Before I got the Gopro, I tried using the Sony bloggie which produced the same issues you had. Gopro has so many mount options. On my trip to 129, I stuck one to my fairing:
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I could very easily switch it from forward facing to rear, swivel it up, out...

The whine of the motor made the sound undesirable, but a soundtrack will fix that:

My kids can use it to make underwater videos in the pool. The case protects the camera which is very convenient, bug splats aren't hitting the lens glass.
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Old 10-26-2013, 09:22 AM
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I removed the third eye lens and mounted a piece of 1/2 inch black plex with a GoPro tripod mount. The mount of the third eye is rubber mounted and I used stainless washers and bolt with rubber washers to fix the tripod mount to the plex. Vibration is minimal.
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Originally Posted by AngryOlaf View Post
I had this issue with my Go Pro setup (as well as an earlier rigid mount) and was able to reduce it substantially by adding rubber shims under the stock rubber spacers on the sides of the gas tank. The stock rubber bits don't sit firm against the frame so the tank has some side to side wobble that really causes a lot of shake at certain RPMs.
I have no rubber on the sides of my tank, just at the mounts... sooo guess I will be looking for some rubber pieces to stick to the frame
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I made a mount that clamps on to my fork leg. Any mounting surface that is un-sprung (ie: Fork leg or swingarm) works really well. I only made one video so far but I lost it due to my PC crashing. Try it if you can make one strong enough for your camera, I made my mount for my GoPro but I'm sure you will have better results than tank mounted.
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Old 10-26-2013, 05:33 PM
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Squid, I would think a fork mount would transmit sharp bumps and ripples to the vid. I'd love to see that perspective.
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Old 10-26-2013, 07:19 PM
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It actually was alot better than the vibration from the engine. Im not saying that it resolved the problem but it sure makes it seem like you are going way faster than a helmet mount does. Wheelies are kinda cool but my first prototype sent my GoPro down the street off the bike.
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The gopro doesnt have anti-vib, so vibration is no less recorded than what you have.
The gopro does have a very wide field of view. 170max.
When you have that wide of view, the vibration doesn't seem to be as bad as a camera with a narrow field of view....like your video camera.

here is my gopro hero 2 naked in 720p. mounted on my tank.
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Originally Posted by Spoot View Post
The gopro doesnt have anti-vib, so vibration is no less recorded than what you have.
The gopro does have a very wide field of view. 170max.
When you have that wide of view, the vibration doesn't seem to be as bad as a camera with a narrow field of view....like your video camera.

here is my gopro hero 2 naked in 720p. mounted on my tank.
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But what the gopro also has is a wide variety of mounts so I have more options to mount the camera somewhere where there may be less vibration than the tank. Its also much ligther than my current camera which would add less stress to the mount. None the less I ordered all the rubber bits my tank is apparently missing according to partzilla's microfiche
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I would also stick with go pro. They have great software that comes with it. I was a huge critic of them until I actually tried out their software. Their cameras offer pretty decent image quality and mounting options for what you get. The only alternative that I think is also as good, is contour cameras. However ,they're pretty much out of business for now.
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A couple of home made mounts I made, the first one is on a frame slider of my R6. Second is a mount I made out of a piece of 3/4" long squaretubing bolted to the back of a Givi rack on my FZ1. Both were filmed with Hero2 with the open cover with a Micover furry wind noise reducer. The mount on the arm really amplified the vibrations.


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This mount has very little vibration. The GoPro mount and the third eye lens replacement are both rubber mounted.
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This mount has very little vibration. The GoPro mount and the third eye lens replacement are both rubber mounted.
I really like that idea. Will have to be a mod done this winter.
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I got a clear "double bubble" screen off Ebay for$35. I mounted the GoPro to the tank with a GoPro stick on mount. It got great vid of the track and I could look at the speedo after the track day and see my top speed. Something you shouldn't do at the track while approaching your braking point at 145+. You can also time your laps. The video was better using the wide setting. Using narrow was not as good.
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After having played with the GoPro, and Drift, I do have a preference for the Drift. As far as pro's go for the drift, I would say the LCD screen is the best. You aim and can see right away if you're right or not. GoPro, no can do. The remote control is another cool feature of the Drift. Press one button on my wrist, and on with rec/pic/pic burst and press again, and you're stopped. No need to look for or at the camera to start/stop. Plus, the wrist remote lets you see wich mode you're in with a different color for each mode. GoPro no can do.
You can mount the drift in almost any position the front lens rotates a full 360° so your image is always straight. GoPro, don't remember if they have this feature. No need for the waterproof casing on the Drift, is good up to 10' in the water.

Beloow is another useless video from my drift. Playing around with different views, and this one is pointing rear.


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After having played with the GoPro, and Drift, I do have a preference for the Drift. As far as pro's go for the drift, I would say the LCD screen is the best. You aim and can see right away if you're right or not. GoPro, no can do. The remote control is another cool feature of the Drift. Press one button on my wrist, and on with rec/pic/pic burst and press again, and you're stopped. No need to look for or at the camera to start/stop. Plus, the wrist remote lets you see wich mode you're in with a different color for each mode. GoPro no can do.
You can mount the drift in almost any position the front lens rotates a full 360° so your image is always straight. GoPro, don't remember if they have this feature. No need for the waterproof casing on the Drift, is good up to 10' in the water.

Beloow is another useless video from my drift. Playing around with different views, and this one is pointing rear.

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GoPro, no can do.
The GoPro has an optional lcd-touch-bacpac, so GoPro can do.... and it has an optional wi-fi-remote, so GoPro can do as well.



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Old 10-30-2013, 06:40 PM
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Well Wolv, it was about time they caught up.

Sorry about the video, going to change that.
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Great ideas's all of you!!!!
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