Battery recommendations? For a hot climate?
Battery recommendations? For a hot climate?
Any battery recommendations, in particular ones that can survive desert heat? My new-from-the-dealer Yuasa etc. died in less than 10 months. I kept it battery tendered on on occasion and am convinced my Phoenix oven (a.k.a. garage) is what killed it.
So do I get a cheap battery, or another high-end battery....or is there something completely different that might be a better choice? Apparently Phoenix kills batteries in general. 3 years for a car battery is a long time, so I'm told. Any online sources preferred or recommended?
Thanks!
-Chris
So do I get a cheap battery, or another high-end battery....or is there something completely different that might be a better choice? Apparently Phoenix kills batteries in general. 3 years for a car battery is a long time, so I'm told. Any online sources preferred or recommended?
Thanks!
-Chris
Thanks Shayne. I checked out the website but I don't see any tabs or links for motorcycles. It looks like they DO make batteries for about everything on wheels. I can try contacting them tomorrow. I need to know it will fit the first time...planning a trip in a couple weeks.
-Chris
-Chris
get a interstate battery, best bang for your buck and a warranty thats hard to beat
http://www.interstatebatteries.com/c...445-4294486746
the price is outrageous online you'll have to call a local dealer i paid like 130 for mine
http://www.interstatebatteries.com/c...445-4294486746
the price is outrageous online you'll have to call a local dealer i paid like 130 for mine
d-volt. they sell a AGM (pseudo gell cell) that works great in the hawk. and its rated for basically all climates you find on earth. (works great in KS, we are the widest variance in weather in the country. 110+ in the summer and subzero in the winter)
After having to replace a fairly new Yuasa, I got an Odyssey. This one:
http://www.odysseybatteries.com/battery/pc310.htm
It's very expensive. These guys have a $20 rebate, which helps some.
http://www.portablepower.com/odyssey...238465a9e544f7
And I haven't had it long enough to recommend it wholeheartedly. But Odysseys have a reputation for being very sturdy, and I've used them in other bikes with great success. In my experience, they put up with being fully discharged way better than other batteries, which can die if you let them run down once. They also will accept unusually high charging currents, provided the charger is designed for AGM batteries (most are these days). Ordinary trickle chargers don't work well.
In this case the only one that fits is very small (could be seen as an advantage, I suppose). I think a wood spacer or two would be a good idea to keep it from moving around. It's only rated at 7-8 A-h, but Odysseys can really put out a lot of starting power. You need to watch out for shorting them when installing it, that power means the short circuit current is very high.
Just a thought, because they're hard to kill in many ways. No specific info about high temps, though.
http://www.odysseybatteries.com/battery/pc310.htm
It's very expensive. These guys have a $20 rebate, which helps some.
http://www.portablepower.com/odyssey...238465a9e544f7
And I haven't had it long enough to recommend it wholeheartedly. But Odysseys have a reputation for being very sturdy, and I've used them in other bikes with great success. In my experience, they put up with being fully discharged way better than other batteries, which can die if you let them run down once. They also will accept unusually high charging currents, provided the charger is designed for AGM batteries (most are these days). Ordinary trickle chargers don't work well.
In this case the only one that fits is very small (could be seen as an advantage, I suppose). I think a wood spacer or two would be a good idea to keep it from moving around. It's only rated at 7-8 A-h, but Odysseys can really put out a lot of starting power. You need to watch out for shorting them when installing it, that power means the short circuit current is very high.
Just a thought, because they're hard to kill in many ways. No specific info about high temps, though.
Last edited by Redone; Jul 27, 2009 at 07:16 AM.
I don't even know what is in mine.. When my R/R died out in cottonwood (killing the battery w it) the shop that I had my bike towed to sold me a new one, and it has lasted 3 years here in Phx.
Iazn, I'm planning a trip to Denver mid-August and all this talk of RR's going out...and kiling batteries too, makes me a little nervous. Sounds like a weak link in an otherwise very reliable bike. Probably a different thread, but with 4k on the bike do I need to be worried...buy a spare RR to keep with me? Electrical is my weakness.
(Nice bike, if you want to road trip through the mountains to Denver from PHX around August 13th or so....let me know!)
(Nice bike, if you want to road trip through the mountains to Denver from PHX around August 13th or so....let me know!)
Iazn, I'm planning a trip to Denver mid-August and all this talk of RR's going out...and kiling batteries too, makes me a little nervous. Sounds like a weak link in an otherwise very reliable bike. Probably a different thread, but with 4k on the bike do I need to be worried...buy a spare RR to keep with me? Electrical is my weakness.
(Nice bike, if you want to road trip through the mountains to Denver from PHX around August 13th or so....let me know!)
(Nice bike, if you want to road trip through the mountains to Denver from PHX around August 13th or so....let me know!)
Some people (like Hawkrider, the Admin here) have had their old style R/Rs last forever. Mine didn't go out till ~50,000 miles. But it is a weak link in our bikes. (motovoltage.com is the only place that has lifetime warranties on their R/Rs ebay can get you cheap alternatives, including a Yamaha part swap or aftermarket.. I went cheap aftermarket and have been lucky, others got the same one I did DOA)
The other thing to do is either replace the CCTs once with APEs or replace them every 20,000 miles or so with stock ones.
Of the two, the CCTs are the more important issue in my mind. Probably less likely to fail on you, but if they fail, they don't just kill the battery, they kill the engine.
I found that Interstate battery at about 1/2 their price at "Apex." Still quite a bit less than the dealer, too, $87 shipping included.
http://www.apexbattery.com/interstat...batteries.html
http://www.apexbattery.com/interstat...batteries.html
Iazn...I knew the CCT's were an issue, but I'm still relatively low on mileage. It was a NOS on a dealer's floor about two years ago....2003 model. Based on that, it sounds like I may be safe for a while. Thanks again. Maybe we can head out sometime.
I'm off to meet with a plastic welder...
I'm off to meet with a plastic welder...
Any good quality AGM battery will be the best option, such as those listed above.
Deka make one to suit the VTR, as I have one. If your battery box has small rubber blocks in the bottom you will need to take these out first as the Deka is slightly higher then the factory battery. No other issues.
The Deka is a top quality product, and rated a bit better than Odyssey by my local battery specialist. Odyssey did not have one that fitted properly either.
Deka make one to suit the VTR, as I have one. If your battery box has small rubber blocks in the bottom you will need to take these out first as the Deka is slightly higher then the factory battery. No other issues.
The Deka is a top quality product, and rated a bit better than Odyssey by my local battery specialist. Odyssey did not have one that fitted properly either.
I found that Interstate battery at about 1/2 their price at "Apex." Still quite a bit less than the dealer, too, $87 shipping included.
http://www.apexbattery.com/interstat...batteries.html
http://www.apexbattery.com/interstat...batteries.html
I had a Platinum Megaboost, Cycle Gear's top-of-the-line. I didn't keep it on a charger and it died after about six months. I tried to use a desulfating charger but still couldn't bring it back. I went to Cycle Gear to buy a replacement and they reminded me that the battery had a lifetime warranty. Grabbed a new one off the shelf and was on my way. Current price at Cycle Gear is $89.99.
I'm not saying this is a better battery than any of the others, but a lifetime warranty is a nice touch.
I'm not saying this is a better battery than any of the others, but a lifetime warranty is a nice touch.
Last edited by afm528; Jul 28, 2009 at 11:22 PM. Reason: corrected battery name, added price
Not an Interstate? I should have paid closer attention. Hopefully it will get me by for a while. I think I'll take my dealer-Yuasa back and see if I can get it warrantied so I can hopefully have a backup.
When I sell enough plasma, I think my next purchase will be from these guys:
http://www.carbon-speed.com/prod.htm
I met the CEO at a bike night and he seemed really knowledgeable. I would probably email them about the heat issue first, but seems like time fade is not an issue. I am out of the country for months at a time for work, so I was looking for a solution that wasn't tender dependent. 8 cell is a bit pricey, but how much is your time worth, right? At any rate, I hope the one you have holds you over for a while.
http://www.carbon-speed.com/prod.htm
I met the CEO at a bike night and he seemed really knowledgeable. I would probably email them about the heat issue first, but seems like time fade is not an issue. I am out of the country for months at a time for work, so I was looking for a solution that wasn't tender dependent. 8 cell is a bit pricey, but how much is your time worth, right? At any rate, I hope the one you have holds you over for a while.
You're not alone with the battery issue. We have the same problem here in Vegas. Dry and hot makes batteries wear out faster. They typically only last 3 years max before they go kaput. But I would also check your charging system, 10 months does not sound right, even for those extreme conditions. When my R/R went out a couple of years ago it also took out a brand new battery, fried a connector or two and the high beam element. I switched to a Gixer R/R and cut some little vents in the tail section to increase airflow. Have not had a problem since. Battery has survived 2 Vegas summers so far, and is just the plain old Yuasa, nothing fancy. Fired right up Sunday after sitting for a couple of weeks. Well good luck.
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