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'03 954 front end swap

Old 06-13-2010, 10:19 AM
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'03 954 front end swap

I scored today. I picked up forks, triples, axle, calipers, rotors, clipons, bearings, and fender for $250. This is exciting. The standard forks were the one thing that really "ages" the look of the hawk. When it all gets here, I have to decide if I'm going to do it right away, or wait until summer is over. If all goes well, I may have the old stuff up for sale. Current forks have gold valves, adjustment ***** and a titanium fork brace.
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Old 06-13-2010, 10:37 AM
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That's a steal.

"Vulture screech" - I'd be interesed in the fork brace if you would post to the UK....
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Old 06-13-2010, 11:41 AM
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Very nice!!!
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Old 06-13-2010, 06:22 PM
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Nice! congrats

You didn't mention wheel. What front wheel are you planning on using?
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Wow, way cheap. Put it on now you procrastibator. Its pretty straight forward. While you are at it swap over to All ***** tapered roller bearings. They make a huge difference & are minimal cost. I spent all winter shopping & didnt get such a deal. Good job.
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Old 06-27-2010, 05:16 PM
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Nice score - I would be interested in those forks when your ready to get rid of them.
I might even be able to come get them
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Old 06-29-2010, 02:17 PM
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Great deal!

That's a amazing deal. I just did this swap on my bike and it makes a huge difference. The forks are a big improvement but the brakes are incredible. Your bike will be down for less than a day as long as everything goes smoothly. If you need any help let me know I'm in Seattle (not really that close but still) What wheel are you going to use? Your stock one will not fit.
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Old 06-29-2010, 02:27 PM
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I am also in Seattle. and this upgrade is my next project, as soon as i score a deal. SO zwoehr....... i could use some pointers, hell i will buy the beer.
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Old 06-29-2010, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by smokinjoe73 View Post
Wow, way cheap. Put it on now you procrastibator. Its pretty straight forward. While you are at it swap over to All ***** tapered roller bearings. They make a huge difference & are minimal cost.
+1 to All *****. Do it right away too, lookup 8541Hawk's writeup on grinding down the steering stops and the rest is cake. I chose to move my radiators back about 3/4". I scored my setup for about what you did, best investment in the Hawk that I've made.

Don't overlook the wheel though, do you already have a 929/954 wheel?
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Old 06-29-2010, 05:01 PM
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You will need clip-ons too. I used 929 helibars (I think). The stock 929/954 ones will not work and the helis barely work. I had to reroute the throttle cables and rotate them forward so that the brake and clutch handle bolts wouldn't gouge the fairings at full lock. I didn't move the radiators, you only hit the hose when you are parking. Basically grind the lower triple to clear the fairing mount, extend the steering stops (I also didn't do this) , put the new parts on and you are good to go. I used 3 SS washers under the ignition lockset to get the steering lock to work.

Seattle I'd be happy to help when are you thinking about doing your conversion?
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Old 06-29-2010, 06:50 PM
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zwoehr, i will keep you posted.... shopping parts now, So if anyone has or knows a good deal on good parts. PM me. thanks all
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Originally Posted by Syclone View Post
lookup 8541Hawk's writeup on grinding down the steering stops and the rest is cake.
or you can just by the spare 954 triple that I have....
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I've been looking but haven't found anyone who has compared a well-tuned stock front end (either RaceTech or one of the gurus here) vs. a similarly well set-up 954 or 1000rr front end swap.

For semi-aggressive street riding, how much better is a full swap than just making the best you can out of the stock externals by adding new springs and valves?
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Originally Posted by afm528 View Post
I've been looking but haven't found anyone who has compared a well-tuned stock front end (either RaceTech or one of the gurus here) vs. a similarly well set-up 954 or 1000rr front end swap.

For semi-aggressive street riding, how much better is a full swap than just making the best you can out of the stock externals by adding new springs and valves?
Well I can come close to what you are asking. I pulled my set of Lindemann tuned (with fork brace) forks and swapped them for a RC51 front end (set up by Dan Kyle). The difference is hard to describe in a few short words. The bike is much more planted in turns and adding a swingarm brace completes the package turning the bike into what it should have been from the factory.

It is well worth the time and effort involved if you ride the bike at a "spirited" pace.
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Old 06-30-2010, 12:21 PM
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How's chassis flex with that setup Mike?
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Old 06-30-2010, 12:26 PM
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I swapped my internals for full RaceTech stuff before going to what I have now... The RaceTech stuff fixed the problems I had with overpowering the front with my weight and riding style, making it nice to ride on a "normal" pace, while stock was downright scary to me... The new fork was just as much better again...
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How's chassis flex with that setup Mike?
For street riding it is a non-issue. If you were planing on racing it, yes you would still have a few issues with frame flex but at street speeds most of the lateral flex is coming from the swingarm and the 900rr brace takes care of the nicely.

I do plan on adding a brace to the head stock but that is to help with the added braking forces.
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Old 06-30-2010, 05:34 PM
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As far as comparing Race Teched stock parts to the 929 parts, I can't comment. I will say this though, you can get the parts to do the swap relatively cheaply and you will get better forks and way better brakes with them, plus have your stock parts to sell afterward. I hope my swap will end up costing me relatively little in the end.... Plus my forks came with racetech internals anyway Nowvsomebody buy my stock parts dammit!!!
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