Chi-Knee FOOt peg! An in depth look:
12-06-2012, 06:02 PM
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Chi-Knee FOOt peg! An in depth look:
So I ordered these foot pegs after seeing them on Fleabay and previously discussing them, and other options a few weeks ago.
So here they are, as they arrived from Hong Kong. This is what came with it:
A closer look:
More pictures, giving a better idea of what it is and how it does it:
Heres the peg itself:
Here seems to be some sort of plug, perhaps to hide the method of anchoring the piece for machine work? Still tasteful though, and well done:
Some of the inside pivot parts had fairly sharp corners, so watch out! But that just means the tolerances were close and maybe could have used a light bead blast:
Here are some pics from the install:
May have to start another post I think I'm running out of space?
So here they are, as they arrived from Hong Kong. This is what came with it:
A closer look:
More pictures, giving a better idea of what it is and how it does it:
Heres the peg itself:
Here seems to be some sort of plug, perhaps to hide the method of anchoring the piece for machine work? Still tasteful though, and well done:
Some of the inside pivot parts had fairly sharp corners, so watch out! But that just means the tolerances were close and maybe could have used a light bead blast:
Here are some pics from the install:
May have to start another post I think I'm running out of space?
12-06-2012, 06:18 PM
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Ok here the continuation:
I think those tight, sharp corners had something to do with how well these mounted up! Very precise and snug, with little play. I was impressed.
I would have liked to see though; a second, maybe longer steel key pin...if not for just a spare.
I did stand on them, while the bike was on its stand. They seemed to hold my weight alright (I'm @190lbs), but there was some flex when I jumped. I think a steel plate in the middle part would feel more sturdy.
But they seem to work as hoped! My knees feel less bent, and can almost touch the sliders. Feel from peg to shift lever is different, obviously, but I cannot really comment much more about the fit of things till I test ride it for an hour or so. (please warm weather, come back again!!)
Was it worth it? So far yes. They look good, they feel nice. But to really know, I'll have to ride it. And maybe tweak the angle of the dangle. So stay tuned! LOL
I think those tight, sharp corners had something to do with how well these mounted up! Very precise and snug, with little play. I was impressed.
I would have liked to see though; a second, maybe longer steel key pin...if not for just a spare.
I did stand on them, while the bike was on its stand. They seemed to hold my weight alright (I'm @190lbs), but there was some flex when I jumped. I think a steel plate in the middle part would feel more sturdy.
But they seem to work as hoped! My knees feel less bent, and can almost touch the sliders. Feel from peg to shift lever is different, obviously, but I cannot really comment much more about the fit of things till I test ride it for an hour or so. (please warm weather, come back again!!)
Was it worth it? So far yes. They look good, they feel nice. But to really know, I'll have to ride it. And maybe tweak the angle of the dangle. So stay tuned! LOL
12-07-2012, 03:11 AM
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The hardware that comes with them appears stainless steel. I just wish that the middle bar thing was too...but time will tell how they hold up. If they fail, you can be sure I'll be on here posting a follow up LOL.
And yeah smokinjoe the fit and finish is excellent, it really is. They look twice the price...just wish I could actually test them! Curse NE weather!! I wanna live in Cali again! Wait, ...no I don't...LMFAO!!
And yeah smokinjoe the fit and finish is excellent, it really is. They look twice the price...just wish I could actually test them! Curse NE weather!! I wanna live in Cali again! Wait, ...no I don't...LMFAO!!
01-30-2013, 03:27 PM
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Hey guys!
NOT gonna post a link...these are junk
...they bent after just a few rides..grrrr...I'll post pics soon...
Then I gotta figure out a way to either rebuild and weld...or just go the Buell peg route...stay tuned.
NOT gonna post a link...these are junk
...they bent after just a few rides..grrrr...I'll post pics soon...Then I gotta figure out a way to either rebuild and weld...or just go the Buell peg route...stay tuned.
01-30-2013, 04:01 PM
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OK so here's the photos...
First, the clutch side peg:
Then the brake side. Oddly though, its not as bent?:
At first it looked the screw was bent:
But then once I took everything out, I realized that the peg itself was bent...like, WTF? Really? Damn that's gotta be some cheap-azz aluminum! Take a look at the threads...its like the steel screw deformed the thread under weight:
So now what? Find another peg with the same thread; maybe...well, most likely a longer (and higher strength) screw needed?
This totally blows cause it looks freakin sweet...but its most likely salvageable with enough care and if I can convince the machinists at work to fab up another one...
So there ya go. Chinese adjustable foot pegs? Failure! But my Chinese brake/clutch levers are holding up nicely
First, the clutch side peg:
Then the brake side. Oddly though, its not as bent?:
At first it looked the screw was bent:
But then once I took everything out, I realized that the peg itself was bent...like, WTF? Really? Damn that's gotta be some cheap-azz aluminum! Take a look at the threads...its like the steel screw deformed the thread under weight:
So now what? Find another peg with the same thread; maybe...well, most likely a longer (and higher strength) screw needed?
This totally blows cause it looks freakin sweet...but its most likely salvageable with enough care and if I can convince the machinists at work to fab up another one...
So there ya go. Chinese adjustable foot pegs? Failure! But my Chinese brake/clutch levers are holding up nicely
01-30-2013, 04:11 PM
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Well if they were mine I would have a set of pegs made up and have whatever the common metric size threads for that size hole tapped.
Then pick up so good quantity hardware to bolt it together.
Then pick up so good quantity hardware to bolt it together.
01-30-2013, 04:21 PM
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Bandit400man, pop off the outside cover so you can get a better idea of the guts of the peg. I wouldn't doubt its just a threaded collar inserted into the peg. Maybe theres alot of slop in there. If it was one solid piece of aluminum, I couldn't see how it would do that with the threads???
01-30-2013, 04:25 PM
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Well, That is just grand.... I ordered two sets of these, for my brother, and father(Test RAT bikes)... Seeing this addition to the thread is poor..
I suspect -I will follow the suggestions of BETTER quality hardware...
I suspect -I will follow the suggestions of BETTER quality hardware...
01-30-2013, 04:55 PM
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1971allchaos-LOL yeah sorry dude...somebody hada test them out, and at least I fessed up and posted the results...
I suspect if your lighter than I (@195lbs) you shouldn't have too much a problem. BUT, if you use longer hardware to begin with this may be avoided. Like Wicky said there's only about a 1/2" contact, if that. AND the threads are much deeper to take what looks like @ an 1" or so...
Matt, I'll see if I can pop out that center cap now...
I suspect if your lighter than I (@195lbs) you shouldn't have too much a problem. BUT, if you use longer hardware to begin with this may be avoided. Like Wicky said there's only about a 1/2" contact, if that. AND the threads are much deeper to take what looks like @ an 1" or so...
Matt, I'll see if I can pop out that center cap now...
01-30-2013, 10:24 PM
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These look very similar to the Cycle Pirates 360 pegs I have. More cost but I have about 4,000 mi. thus far and no problems, in case you decide to go a different route. I know others here use them as well, as stated in past threads and as you are probably already aware. Here is a pic from their web site.
CyclePirates.com - Specializing in Custom Sport Bikes, Parts, and Service
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01-31-2013, 06:35 AM
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Bandit, it really looks like you can just beef up that bolt to like a #8 and drill and rethread the hole & be back in business. I have had the same thing happen on my woodcrafts, albeit on a 100mph crash, but you can fix that.
Check out fastenal or mcmaster-carr for the bolts. Real class operations.
Oh and again, you did this for the greater good, so thanks. Kind of like we all should share our vitories and defeats so we all learn.
Like that time I swapped my "blown" motor but it turned out to be a tank of diesel making it smoke.
Bent peg is easier.
Check out fastenal or mcmaster-carr for the bolts. Real class operations.
Oh and again, you did this for the greater good, so thanks. Kind of like we all should share our vitories and defeats so we all learn.
Like that time I swapped my "blown" motor but it turned out to be a tank of diesel making it smoke.
Bent peg is easier.
01-31-2013, 11:02 AM
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Oh jesus somkinjoe! That is crazy, how'd you wind up with diesel in the tank?! Wait, almost did that to my car, then thought, damn this nozzle is big! LOL
And Upland111, those do look exactly the same, albeit beefier...almost bought them till I realized I had to get the pegs separately...I'm just that cheap LOL.
But, good news.
Talked with the wonderful machinists here at work and they're gonna enlarge the thread from M8-1.25 to 1/4-28 I think...also install an 1-1/2" L screw to max out the thread engagement.
And if you see that little boss on the peg that the thread goes into? He's gonna turn that down completely flat to give it more surface area to lock into place better, less chance of tilt.
Either way if I find myself going to Daytona Beach for bike week this season, I'm bringing the old pegs as spares.
I'll post follow up pics and all in a few days when its done...prolly Monday...
And Upland111, those do look exactly the same, albeit beefier...almost bought them till I realized I had to get the pegs separately...I'm just that cheap LOL.
But, good news.
Talked with the wonderful machinists here at work and they're gonna enlarge the thread from M8-1.25 to 1/4-28 I think...also install an 1-1/2" L screw to max out the thread engagement.
And if you see that little boss on the peg that the thread goes into? He's gonna turn that down completely flat to give it more surface area to lock into place better, less chance of tilt.
Either way if I find myself going to Daytona Beach for bike week this season, I'm bringing the old pegs as spares.
I'll post follow up pics and all in a few days when its done...prolly Monday...
01-31-2013, 11:08 AM
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No need to use the Saviours name in vain, I get the point.
Take pics of your mods. My buddy the machinist constantly finds stuff "wrong" with my bike & fixes it. Most recently my single sided swingarm linkage.
Take pics of your mods. My buddy the machinist constantly finds stuff "wrong" with my bike & fixes it. Most recently my single sided swingarm linkage.
01-31-2013, 12:55 PM
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Hi Banditman,
How was the price of the foot pegs?
I bought the vario footpegs for my Hawk in Germany at the company Thurn Motorsports for 115 € (156 US $). The vario foot pegs are eight way adjustable and have three different long side arms (hope, this is the right word for it
) with 0.98, 1.18 and 1.97 inch. The quality is very high. Now the knee angle is very kompfortabel. Don't want to miss the vario foot pegs.
Cheers Buk
I bought the vario footpegs for my Hawk in Germany at the company Thurn Motorsports for 115 € (156 US $). The vario foot pegs are eight way adjustable and have three different long side arms (hope, this is the right word for it
) with 0.98, 1.18 and 1.97 inch. The quality is very high. Now the knee angle is very kompfortabel. Don't want to miss the vario foot pegs.Cheers Buk
01-31-2013, 01:48 PM
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Hey captain those do look real nice...even better than the cycle pirate ones...but come at a cost, like everything else...you get what you pay for Lol
BTW these cheapys from Asia only cost 50 bucks
BTW these cheapys from Asia only cost 50 bucks
01-31-2013, 01:55 PM
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These are all nice foot pegs and I have a set myself that I don't use right now.
I don't know about you guy's, but they all have one common little issue, that did bothered me personally, and it could be just me... when you going for more than few hour trip, you do feel vibrations allot more without having the rubbers on the pegs and eventually it feels annoying to me... I would like to hear your take on this as well.
I don't know about you guy's, but they all have one common little issue, that did bothered me personally, and it could be just me... when you going for more than few hour trip, you do feel vibrations allot more without having the rubbers on the pegs and eventually it feels annoying to me... I would like to hear your take on this as well.
01-31-2013, 02:29 PM
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NHSH, I'd agree on that. Had a set of cheap-o chinese anodized footpegs on mine for a while. Combat boots with thick treads were alright, but if I wore race boots or riding boots the thin sole made it pretty buzzy.
01-31-2013, 10:12 PM
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Just an FYI, regarding the vibration level. Personally I have had Zero problem with the Cycle Pirates, as I have stated in other threads. It was actually a nice surprise because I was thinking it could be an annoyance, but wasn't. I wear the Tourmaster Solution 2.0 Air boots, but the boots are nothing special regarding the soul, so far as I can tell.
Maybe it's the fact I am so distracted by the fun I am having while twisting the grip, that I don't notice it.... : )
Maybe it's the fact I am so distracted by the fun I am having while twisting the grip, that I don't notice it.... : )
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^Haha do that all the time!
So Mike the man machinist came thru for me....got some 1-1/2" L 1/4-28 thread screws from MSC and turned them on a lathe for a perfect fit. He even beveled the heads for a custom look, and gave a nice shoulder to the screw. Fits tight an snug, almost locks into place! Should have pics posted tonight if I have time...sitting in the free tax prep waiting room now...shoot me lol
So Mike the man machinist came thru for me....got some 1-1/2" L 1/4-28 thread screws from MSC and turned them on a lathe for a perfect fit. He even beveled the heads for a custom look, and gave a nice shoulder to the screw. Fits tight an snug, almost locks into place! Should have pics posted tonight if I have time...sitting in the free tax prep waiting room now...shoot me lol
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