captainchaos

I think it's great. The sportclassics work for ducati why not this?

KC-10ENG

Check out the CB1000F on the Honda UK website that is really nice! The UK also gets 2 versions of the FZ1 one naked and the other one with fairings like ours!

Later Dennis

RK1

I like the retro look, but not retro weight or performance.

The '83 CB1100F made less H.P. than a VTR and weighed over 100 lbs. more.

HRCA#1

Dude my 76 CB550F weighed more than the Superhawk and made 38.38 hp at the rear wheel according to Cycle Magazine (the best ever), it also had 1.85" rims 19 inch in front and 18 inch rear wheels, 35mm forks and shocks that barely kept the springs retained and a single disc front brake and drum rear brake and I loved her! I won 2 WERA Championships with her and could wail on most of the 750's of the era. In fact I had a harder time against the Brit and Italian twins than I did against japanese 750's. Your right of course about the weight and horsepower of the 83 CB1100F but I don't think they would bother making this CB1000F if it wasnt' 90-100 HP and 450 or less pounds..its 30 years later than my heyday and I don't see them making junk in the name of nostalgia.

Thumper

AAAhhhhhh i like it. As a current owner of a 82 CB750F that i bought new in 83 i could surely add one of these to my stable right beside the Antique tag CBF i have now...

It is funny how the naked bikes have gotten popular the past few years.

RK1

HRCA#1;

Amen on CYCLE MAGAZINE being the best ever. I'm looking at the April '83 issue as I type this. Pg. 54- the CB1100F made 95.79 HP @8500 rpm. Curb weight w/full tank= 583.5 lbs. It still ran an 11.03 et @121.78 mph. Clearly, the boneheads at MOTORCYCLIST who posted an 11.47 on the VTR are either really overweight or just really slow!

I'll admit I was never a big fan of the I-4, air cooled, CB Hondas. My first street bike was a '73 Yam TX500. It was lighter, slimmer, handled better, was quicker and faster than my best bud's CB550.

My opinion on that concept bike? If they could get the weight down to 450 lbs. wet AND do a slim, LC motor making 120+ HP at the rear wheel, they might have something.

If they went with a 3 foot wide AC motor making 90 or 95 HP, nobody would buy it.

The Kaw ZRX-12 was a very cool retro making 115-117 liquid cooled HP at the rear wheel and it is gone 'cause demand dried up after a few years.

HRCA#1

I guess we'll hear from Greg about Highjacking the thread but let me say before I bought the 550F I was going to buy a TX500 I rode it loved the handling but when I talked to my dealer he said that Yamaha was having alot of top end problems with it and recommended the 550, in those days I was looking for a Brit bike feel but that didn't leak or fail. If you were faster than your friend on the 550 it was exactly that you were faster in all the time I raced mine I never saw one on the track.

supermarto

The retro Honda concepts are awesome... that motor is the one that started it all for the Honda Co., and kicked off the inline four trend...

I for one LOVE the looks, and I would ride out on one of those bitches! They also made a nekkid CB1100F: http://thekneeslider.com/images/hondacb1100f.jpg

I like that one even better. THAT is a straight-up MOTORCYCLE. The pipes remind me of the CB400's headers.

RK1

HRCA#1;

My preference for the TX was a personal thing, I recognize the CB500/550s as great doitall road bikes. I'm not surprised you didn't see them on the track 'cause Honda probably sold 15 or 20 CB500/550 for every TX500 Yamaha sold. I think it was the TX750 that had the problems, but the bad rep spilled over to the 500. I just know my TX pulled harder than the CBs and I put about 30k miles on it without any problem.

The one thing I didn't like about it was that it had a powerband like an RD. I scratched that itch in '76 by getting a '73 Norton Commando. The Norton was as quick as a mid '70s CB750 and had a powerband like a CAT D8 bulldozer. Which is pretty much the reason I'm riding a VTR and not an I-4 Super Sport.

joe6pack

Yeah I like it allot. I have a '84 GPz 750, like the one Lou Reed sang about, that I spent years making into a vintage hot rod and I think those old bikes are just the ****. They might have been a touch heavy - my stock exhaust VTR weighs about 30#'s less than my Kerker GPz - but the old girls were overbuilt and durable and made to be taken apart and dicked with. With the re-jetted stock carbs and a Wiesco 810 kit and stock deck height I'm around 75 HP on the dyno. Like most of those old bikes, mine responded really well to Race Tech fork mods and a custom Works shock. No VTR for sure, but really really fun and anyone remember how fast Wayne Rainey could make one go? The UJM's were a mature technology, fun 25 years ago, fun (and collectable) 25 years from now.

killer5280

We're of the same mind, RK1. Weight is always the problem. I like the look of the CB1100R, but not the CB1100F. The air cooled engine doesn't turn me on, but I could be open minded if the weight was acceptable-under 500 pounds wet. I'm not holding my breath.
The ZRX, while having an awesome motor, weighed in at around 540 wet, which is a deal breaker for me.

Reinske

Well, I guess the weight doesn't matter at these bikes. They are not built for racing any more. They are built for cruising the streets a bit more sportier than Harleys do. It's just the retro look. Like it too...

Always if I see those retro bikes ( like Ducati has too ) I wonder when do they start building retro cars...?? There must be a life after the SUV...

captainchaos

I think they started already...t-bird, mustang, camaro, challenger...

cliby

I think I like my classics old! Not sure how well this will do sales wise and if honda will do it - they seem to be very conservative lately. I don't think the ducati classic line has been a big sales hit after the initial enthusiasm for them. Here some video of the concept bike


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lO_gzvFnNmc

autoteach

I know I keep it real, but what is eu? I am dumb

Syclone

I'm guessing European Union?

And why does the naked version have non-USD forks, but the full-fairing'd one has USD forks? I don't really like the fairing'd one, but the naked reminds me of my CB750 Nighthawk, which would have been a really nice bike with one extra gear and liquid cooling...

FL02SupaHawk996

cliby;

That utube is the bomb! Man I'd like to have that bike...how do convince the wifie that 2 bikes is cool? Cuz can't let my HAWK go

Reinske

Ah well, seems the american cars don't get much noticed here... Shame!! Soo beautiful!! Mustang is an all-time runner. The new challenger is really nice. But I'm more into Pickups... Got a MD21, that's a Nissan. ( ) US-Cars are very very expensive at the german fee system. Just the "vehicle fee" without any insurances ( tax on engine volume ) is depending from 1000€ to 3000€ !! That's too much!!

So far off topic...


@cliby:

The ducati classic line is quite well sold in europe, specially in france and italy. The Triumph classic line ( Bonneville, Thruxton ) are also. So it's time for the japanese to step on... Cause they had really great bikes in the 80's and the early 90's. A german stat: Average bike age all along is about 11years... ( or was it even 14 years? Can't remember, I'll have a look again... )