View Poll Results: What part do ya want!!!!
Fork Brace
20
36.36%
Rearsets
19
34.55%
Rearset Adapters
13
23.64%
Footpeg Mounts
3
5.45%
Frame/swingarm Brace
11
20.00%
CNC brake lever
9
16.36%
Shock mount
4
7.27%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 55. You may not vote on this poll
What part would you want...
08-20-2011, 09:43 PM
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What part would you want...
machined/made for your superhawk/firestorm at a more affordable price?
I think that adjustable rearsets are pretty high on my list, as well as a low down and dirty forkbrace.
I know Jamie makes a CNC shift lever, and apparently it's a beautiful thing (I've yet to order one) and IIRC there's no brake lever coming in the future
But one of my close friends has to choose a "project" for his CNC class and it is supposed to be something that can be mass produced so I figured, if it could be done, I'd recommend some stuff off the SH as a project, so, if (and that's a big if) it could be done, what would y'all want?
I think that adjustable rearsets are pretty high on my list, as well as a low down and dirty forkbrace.
I know Jamie makes a CNC shift lever, and apparently it's a beautiful thing (I've yet to order one) and IIRC there's no brake lever coming in the future
But one of my close friends has to choose a "project" for his CNC class and it is supposed to be something that can be mass produced so I figured, if it could be done, I'd recommend some stuff off the SH as a project, so, if (and that's a big if) it could be done, what would y'all want?
08-21-2011, 07:09 AM
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The part I've been dreaming about making is a weld on frame brace to connect to the swingarm pivot bolt, and incorporate the rearset bracket onto it also.
Maybe a little too involved for what your friend is doing...I can dream
I know someone with a mill, and another friend owns a business and has a CNC mill and lathe, maybe someday I can figure it out
Maybe a little too involved for what your friend is doing...I can dream
I know someone with a mill, and another friend owns a business and has a CNC mill and lathe, maybe someday I can figure it out
08-21-2011, 07:31 AM
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The part I've been dreaming about making is a weld on frame brace to connect to the swingarm pivot bolt, and incorporate the rearset bracket onto it also.
Maybe a little too involved for what your friend is doing...I can dream
I know someone with a mill, and another friend owns a business and has a CNC mill and lathe, maybe someday I can figure it out
Maybe a little too involved for what your friend is doing...I can dream
I know someone with a mill, and another friend owns a business and has a CNC mill and lathe, maybe someday I can figure it out
08-21-2011, 08:16 PM
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The part I've been dreaming about making is a weld on frame brace to connect to the swingarm pivot bolt, and incorporate the rearset bracket onto it also.
Maybe a little too involved for what your friend is doing...I can dream
I know someone with a mill, and another friend owns a business and has a CNC mill and lathe, maybe someday I can figure it out
Maybe a little too involved for what your friend is doing...I can dream
I know someone with a mill, and another friend owns a business and has a CNC mill and lathe, maybe someday I can figure it out
Foot? do you mean like a puck to put down on the ground and then set the bike on it? Maybe a longer kickstand but I wouldn't trust aluminum, and a steel one would be easier just to weld a tack onto the end.
Front sprocket cover would be cool but I think the Magnesium one on there is a tad bit lighter.
Smaller tail or a aluminum subframe?
I think it would be pretty easy to make one with a wing on it that you could drill into yourself, it would allow you to even branch out into other manufacturers rearsets.
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So as of right now, I'm seeing the most votes for fork brace and rearsets/adapters?
He's got 2 weeks to decide and another month to design so we've got a little bit of time!
If anyone has done any design work on something that has fallen through (Marcus, I know you've dabbled in some designs) and has any CAD work, email it to me and I can see about the feasibility of doing something.
The point of the project is to provide a good at little over aluminium cost,and powder coating will be available at cost when designs are done.
08-22-2011, 01:13 AM
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The piece doesn't look too bad to design, and would be much easier to cast than CNC.
My concern would be how thick to make the plate in order to accommodate the strength necessary to gain any benefits of having such a rigid rear end.
Another concern would be how many people would want such an aggressive riding position for say street riding.
08-22-2011, 06:44 AM
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I think the block of plates are already being pretty cheaply produced on ebay by a couple of people, I think $18 shipped is the lowest I've seen and the aluminium and CNC time involved makes that about as low as it could go. It would be fun to whip out a couple of sets with laser engraving on it though!
Well, I think the idea is from the MORIWAKI race bike...
I think it would be pretty easy to make one with a wing on it that you could drill into yourself, it would allow you to even branch out into other manufacturers rearsets..........Another concern would be how many people would want such an aggressive riding position for say street riding.
I think it would be pretty easy to make one with a wing on it that you could drill into yourself, it would allow you to even branch out into other manufacturers rearsets..........Another concern would be how many people would want such an aggressive riding position for say street riding.
08-22-2011, 07:12 AM
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I've seen footpeg mounts for about $140 that I'd like to have. If your friend could figure out a way to make them at a more reasonable price, I would think they could be used on a wide variety of bikes. These pieces are shaped like the inside of the footpeg to allow them to raise up like the stock ones. they have an arm about 1/5 inchs long which bolts into the center of the footpeg inside, but swivel 360 degrees and have a peg mounted on the end of the arm. That would allow a rider to lower them for comfortable city use, but also raise them back and up for track or aggressive riding.
08-22-2011, 07:14 AM
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Here's another thread where this part seems like it would be reasonably easy to design.
https://www.superhawkforum.com/forum...-risers-26429/
https://www.superhawkforum.com/forum...-risers-26429/
08-22-2011, 10:37 AM
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08-22-2011, 04:31 PM
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I've seen footpeg mounts for about $140 that I'd like to have. If your friend could figure out a way to make them at a more reasonable price, I would think they could be used on a wide variety of bikes. These pieces are shaped like the inside of the footpeg to allow them to raise up like the stock ones. they have an arm about 1/5 inchs long which bolts into the center of the footpeg inside, but swivel 360 degrees and have a peg mounted on the end of the arm. That would allow a rider to lower them for comfortable city use, but also raise them back and up for track or aggressive riding.
Because that sounds like it would be pretty easy to make.
I would think that would put the pegs out a little further than I'd be comfortable with as I scrape them in the stock position on any spirited ride no matter how much I'm off the pegs.
I think that could be useful in any set made, because if it could be designed to be done on the fly then it would be awesome if you go for rides on the fly.
08-23-2011, 07:42 AM
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And would you be thinking using that with the stock rearsets?
Because that sounds like it would be pretty easy to make.
I would think that would put the pegs out a little further than I'd be comfortable with as I scrape them in the stock position on any spirited ride no matter how much I'm off the pegs.
I think that could be useful in any set made, because if it could be designed to be done on the fly then it would be awesome if you go for rides on the fly.
Because that sounds like it would be pretty easy to make.
I would think that would put the pegs out a little further than I'd be comfortable with as I scrape them in the stock position on any spirited ride no matter how much I'm off the pegs.
I think that could be useful in any set made, because if it could be designed to be done on the fly then it would be awesome if you go for rides on the fly.
Here's a link to something similar: Sportouring Bike Accessories
Here's a video of the concept too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMg2WD9OgwI
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08-23-2011, 03:11 PM
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yeah, the mount to the stock brackets. They only stick out slightly past what stock would be, plus if you have them in the raised position, you'd have plenty of clearance. Putting them in the lower position would definitely be for more casual riding, but is good knee relief for us old guys.
Here's a link to something similar: Sportouring Bike Accessories
Here's a video of the concept too: Ducati Corsa Style Adjustable Footpeg Kit - YouTube
Here's a link to something similar: Sportouring Bike Accessories
Here's a video of the concept too: Ducati Corsa Style Adjustable Footpeg Kit - YouTube
But that will be on the board as well. Would you want the entire mechanism to fold or just the peg?
And the same question for the possiblity of rearsets. Rigid peg or flip up, like stock?
There are benefits of both but it's something I'd like group input on because the design will vary quite a bit pending on the answer.
08-25-2011, 09:46 AM
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That would require some input from Jamie because I know relatively little about suspension and I'd rather have someone who is a professional get ATLEAST the main measurements done and then I could figure out how to plug it all together. But that would be borderline infringing on livelihood, and that's not something I want to do, but if they're game......
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As of right now, I've got a really rough down and dirty AUTOCAD of an adjustable shift lever that could be incorporated into the design, it is essentially something similar to Jamies CNC but skeleton, and it will match the rearsets.
Right now I'm designing this to be a solid mount peg set up, so I hope if anyone cares they chime in.... now.
Because I've got 90% of the measurements (Thanks Mike!!!) and I'm gonna start making the design for the rearsets.
08-25-2011, 11:07 AM
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Old is allllllll relative!
But that will be on the board as well. Would you want the entire mechanism to fold or just the peg?
And the same question for the possiblity of rearsets. Rigid peg or flip up, like stock?
There are benefits of both but it's something I'd like group input on because the design will vary quite a bit pending on the answer.
But that will be on the board as well. Would you want the entire mechanism to fold or just the peg?
And the same question for the possiblity of rearsets. Rigid peg or flip up, like stock?
There are benefits of both but it's something I'd like group input on because the design will vary quite a bit pending on the answer.
08-25-2011, 04:27 PM
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The main benefits of the flip up is being able to save parts in case of a crash and to prevent the bike from hopping when catching on various road surfaces when on it's side.
As well if you do scrape the pegs mid turn, it will give a little and not upset you.
Benefits of a rigid peg is less slop in actuating movement of both levers. Not all that much, but noticeable. Either way they're going to have sealed bearings on all moving parts so it's going to be smooth and precise
And just as a teaser.... and this is by ALL means NOT a finished product. Just an idea.
I'm reworking the "skeleton" aspect of it because I don't like how it looks.
Structural integrity is being tested tomorrow on a faster computer
08-28-2011, 10:14 AM
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