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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 09:10 PM
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what clutch to use?

so my clutch is toast in my bike, its just slipping like a fat kid at a free slippery thing convention. so im in the market for a new one. bastards arent cheap though. i picked up some ebc springs for a few bucks a short while back so now i just need clutch plates. my buddy recommended that i stay with oem honda plates in there, but its 150 bucks his cost for all 10 plates and the gasket. that sounds crazy, i wouldnt wanna see the normal customer cost on something like that. regardless i did some looking around on ebay and found an ebc setup

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/98-05...Q5fAccessories

price seems decent for something that should be an upgrade. hes weary about aftermarket clutches because hes had bad luck with them and prefers to stick to oem clutchs, hell mine has about 27000 km on it and this last year i rode hard, clutched it up alot, tracked it and beat on it good so its due for a replacement. my question is, do i stick with oem or is there a cheaper alternative thats just as good? or better yet does someone know where i can get an oem plate kit from the states for less and just ship it to me. we get juiced a little here north of the boarder on parts for everything so saving a little money and buying from the states works for me
Old Jan 5, 2011 | 09:12 PM
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ferod...Q5fAccessories

even something like that, ive heard of a similar name so maybe thats whats making me think its a name thats known.
Old Jan 5, 2011 | 11:07 PM
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I have always used barnett racing clutches as replacements. Both of the links you posted look like good deals but I can tell you that the ebc is probably gonna be way stouter than the ferodo. (meaning stronger/ more durable). That is pretty cheap and your springs were probably fine anyway. Its a pretty strait forward job & its likely you wont need a gasket if you are careful. I didnt.
Old Jan 6, 2011 | 03:24 AM
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Both are "known"... I'd take the EBC... I have had good experiences with them...
Old Jan 6, 2011 | 05:09 AM
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I put Barnett's in mine with good results. Be sure you replace your springs while you are in there. get some stronger ones.
Old Jan 6, 2011 | 03:40 PM
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perfect thanks for the help guys. its the answers i was after

ive got ebc springs so im assuming theyre going to be an improvement over the factory stuff and ill buy one in the next week or so. gonna be to get on her in third gear and actually go somewhere
Old Jan 6, 2011 | 03:59 PM
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less than 17k miles? beat on it more like thrashed feathers all over

i'd check out the rest of ur bird too

if it feeds on oem whatever will do
Old Jan 6, 2011 | 06:35 PM
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the rest of the bike is solid. the guy i bought it from put in a used motor with what he said was 15000 km. now it could have had 15000 or it could have had double, who knows, im going by what he says, and i was far from gentle with it. plus this year was pretty bad for clutch ups for for so that didnt help

im still bound to do the winter inspection to it make sure everything is still tight, we all know how the big twins like to rattle things loose
Old Jan 6, 2011 | 09:26 PM
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check the bolts that secure the subframe; mine backed right out.
Old Jan 6, 2011 | 10:13 PM
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I wouldnt go with EBC. I have those in my hawk and i hate them...well not hate...but hard launching the bike has become impossible. It just bucks and surges at high rpm...

Basically made me walk away from the bike in disgust when i was at the drag strip cuz i couldnt get any decent times with it.

I'd stick with OEM. price difference isnt that bad if u can get them for 150.
Old Jan 7, 2011 | 04:24 AM
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interesting, good to know. although the chances of me going to the strip are slim, i know mine tends to want to lift me in the first 2 gears aggressively as i found out the last time i tried to do a pull against a buddy of mine so i probably wont ever drag it. but the info is good to know. i havent bought it yet, almost bought one the other night but work is a little slow right now and the toys need to wait a bit
Old Jan 7, 2011 | 04:25 AM
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thanks for the tip on the subframe, ill check that, last thing i want is to hit a bump have it come off and see what happens to me when i get tossed off the back, lol
Old Jan 7, 2011 | 07:08 AM
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the heavy duty springs helped me a lot on the track when under high rpms and hard accelleration. when I hit a straight, I'd be sliding between every gear waiting for it to grab. I only changed the springs and it made all the difference.
Old Jan 8, 2011 | 05:59 AM
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good to know. i wonder if all ebc springs are heavier duty than oem stuff.

ive got a buddy whos a machinist and hes also built some interesting one off stuff for his bikes. he was saying what hes done in the past was shaved down some sort of ring that brought the clutch packs in closer or tighter or something and its made them feel like new again. im not exactly sure 100% what he did as ive never had the clutch out so im not sure what he lathes down but hes done it to his dirt bikes and has had success. thought about doing that but i think new disks are a better option
Old Jan 8, 2011 | 12:38 PM
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I put a Barnett complete clutch in the 99' - (How to explain) Riding could be considered abusive- High RPM down shifts usually cause some rear tire stopping, some slide in the curves.
On the 2001 , I used the Barnett spring,and stock clutch plates. Little less abusive, (the wife stays on the back of bike) yet no problem with slipping.
I would think, Uchi really come down to how much HP, you predict your going produce out of your engine...
Old Jan 8, 2011 | 12:51 PM
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i think the way it is now is how its going to stay. unless i blow the motor i likely wont open it up and tinker with it. i just want a clutch that will take some abuse from track and street use. i like the idea of stiffer springs with the stock plates
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