Turbo Superhawk?...yeah
10-08-2007, 10:49 AM
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Turbo Superhawk?...yeah
wish the video was clearer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjkkKGI0HR0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjkkKGI0HR0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjkkKGI0HR0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjkkKGI0HR0
10-08-2007, 08:56 PM
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10-25-2007, 10:24 AM
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Man...that looks like fun.
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10-25-2007, 11:07 AM
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I agree
Bah. That's just plain ridiculous. I have yet to ride a turbo bike (And I have ridden MANY) that is unrideable due to it doing unwanted acceleration leaned over. It just doesn't work like that. I have been wanting to turbo my VTR. I wish there were better views of how he got it all routed...
Man...that looks like fun.
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Man...that looks like fun.
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10-25-2007, 11:49 AM
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Without details & dyno charts we don't know but with its relatively low compression ratio, the packaging is the main issue. I see a single centerup can, so the intake, blower location & exhaust plumbing is the key. Fuel injection can be more tricky but its hypothetically possible to make a carburated turbo or supercharger work quite well will minimal lag and reasonable throttle response.
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10-25-2007, 12:10 PM
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Yeah, If I do it, it'll be blowing through the stock carbs. My friend Ryan, who makes a mean turbo'd ZRX and has also done a DRZ-400-SM that he turbo'd and is building my second generation system for my bandit (on hold at the moment) has gotten carb tuning with a turbo down to a pretty good science. The Bandit is going with Megasquirt and R1 throttle bodies, but I don't think I'd want to reinvent the wheel with the VTR. Just a good blowthrough system. I wish I could see that guys setup better...but it looks all reasonable well hidden. Turbo looks like it sits under the seat.
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10-25-2007, 12:16 PM
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I guess I fail to see why not? Aside from the difficulty in packaging it, what would keep you from wanting to do it?
Hmm...I guess we are bound to differ on opinions on this one... but I would love to have the VTR's powerband on steriods! It would just be a quicker revving VTR, with easily almost double the power and 130 ft/lbs of torque. What is not to like about that?
It turns and stops well, it's light...and you'd have the power to embarrass just about anything out there. And its unique. I could go on and on.
Ride my turbo'd bandit or my buddies turbo'd ZRX, and its a life altering experience.
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Hmm...I guess we are bound to differ on opinions on this one... but I would love to have the VTR's powerband on steriods! It would just be a quicker revving VTR, with easily almost double the power and 130 ft/lbs of torque. What is not to like about that?
It turns and stops well, it's light...and you'd have the power to embarrass just about anything out there. And its unique. I could go on and on.
Ride my turbo'd bandit or my buddies turbo'd ZRX, and its a life altering experience.
-R
10-25-2007, 12:36 PM
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Well sure. I'd love to turbo any number of sport twins out there. I just happen to own a VTR, and they are cheap and fairly plentiful.
As far as a 600, it can be done, and has. But its awfully peaky to be much fun as a street ride. Displacement of at least a liter sure helps keep off boost performance somewhat acceptable. Besides...there are tons of light liter platforms out there. Hell, the VTR is WAYYYYY lighter than either my bandit or my zx-11d, so I already feel good riding it, plus the riding position is humane to my beat up, aging body.
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10-25-2007, 12:55 PM
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I guess I fail to see why not? Aside from the difficulty in packaging it, what would keep you from wanting to do it?
Hmm...I guess we are bound to differ on opinions on this one... but I would love to have the VTR's powerband on steriods! It would just be a quicker revving VTR, with easily almost double the power and 130 ft/lbs of torque. What is not to like about that?
It turns and stops well, it's light...and you'd have the power to embarrass just about anything out there. And its unique. I could go on and on.
Ride my turbo'd bandit or my buddies turbo'd ZRX, and its a life altering experience.
-R
Hmm...I guess we are bound to differ on opinions on this one... but I would love to have the VTR's powerband on steriods! It would just be a quicker revving VTR, with easily almost double the power and 130 ft/lbs of torque. What is not to like about that?
It turns and stops well, it's light...and you'd have the power to embarrass just about anything out there. And its unique. I could go on and on.
Ride my turbo'd bandit or my buddies turbo'd ZRX, and its a life altering experience.
-R
You ride alot of straight lines dont ya?
10-25-2007, 12:56 PM
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Well that's all good but the problem with trying it with a VTR is the chassis. When you box the frame, change the front end, brace the swingarm the chassis can handle up to around 140 hp. Anything more than that and you start destroying engine cases at the swing arm pivot. It's like the problem the Duc's used to have. If you don't believe it then just give Erion a call. They had the same problem with their VTR.
10-25-2007, 12:57 PM
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Well that's all good but the problem with trying it with a VTR is the chassis. When you box the frame, change the front end, brace the swingarm the chassis can handle up to around 140 hp. Anything more than that and you start destroying engine cases at the swing arm pivot. It's like the problem the Duc's used to have. If you don't believe it then just give Erion a call. They had the same problem with their VTR.
That and the fact that unless your gonna use it simply as a drag bike your just making a cheep bike turn into a cheeper bike. lol
10-25-2007, 01:45 PM
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What about this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSmxaORvBQI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSmxaORvBQI
10-25-2007, 01:46 PM
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What about this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSmxaORvBQI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSmxaORvBQI
Yeah saw that **** before and thats scary as ****. lol I would drive it though.
10-25-2007, 01:51 PM
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Did you see this one. The guy takes his kart out on the freeway.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYREdEJLWyA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYREdEJLWyA
10-25-2007, 01:58 PM
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Did you see this one. The guy takes his kart out on the freeway.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYREdEJLWyA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYREdEJLWyA
now that looks like fun!@!!
10-25-2007, 02:20 PM
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Come to washington and follow me up Windy Ridge at Mt. St. Helens, and I'll let you be the judge. 
Look, I never said I was the fastest one around a track. But I fail to see why more power is a bad thing? I have yet to have anybody ever ride my turbo'd bike and fail to see the point of it. Its your wrist that controls the power folks. Are you saying you can't handle more power? Why do people do mods to their bikes then? Better leave the stock exhaust on, and don't rejet it! Don't want it getting away from you in the corners!
Look, I never said I was the fastest one around a track. But I fail to see why more power is a bad thing? I have yet to have anybody ever ride my turbo'd bike and fail to see the point of it. Its your wrist that controls the power folks. Are you saying you can't handle more power? Why do people do mods to their bikes then? Better leave the stock exhaust on, and don't rejet it! Don't want it getting away from you in the corners!
10-25-2007, 02:24 PM
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Come to washington and follow me up Windy Ridge at Mt. St. Helens, and I'll let you be the judge.
Look, I never said I was the fastest one around a track. But I fail to see why more power is a bad thing? I have yet to have anybody ever ride my turbo'd bike and fail to see the point of it. Its your wrist that controls the power folks. Are you saying you can't handle more power? Why do people do mods to their bikes then? Better leave the stock exhaust on, and don't rejet it! Don't want it getting away from you in the corners!
Look, I never said I was the fastest one around a track. But I fail to see why more power is a bad thing? I have yet to have anybody ever ride my turbo'd bike and fail to see the point of it. Its your wrist that controls the power folks. Are you saying you can't handle more power? Why do people do mods to their bikes then? Better leave the stock exhaust on, and don't rejet it! Don't want it getting away from you in the corners!
10-25-2007, 02:41 PM
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man i can ride my ol hawk on the back rodes around here to its full potential, the sand on the roads make it a lil harry at times but the hawk aint no superbike either. plus a turbo on a torquey engine would b kinda cool if it was set up right. a turboed 600 would b a waste i would think. there would b way too much top end with nothing to get you there. but then a well tuned turboed hawk with full suspension mods and a fork swap prolly still wouldnt b much more power/performance/handleing then like a 1000RR. sadly.
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10-25-2007, 02:46 PM
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oh damn, not another i am faster than you in the mountains deal. lol dude ride your own ride and be safe. My point is youre never gonna ride a VTR on the street stock to its full potential let alone a turboed one. lol If it was a race bike then thats a different story but a street bike? cmon IF it makes you happy then by all means have at it, who am I to bust your bubble. Just seems like a waste of energy to me.
I can see why you'd say that if haven't ridden one. A judicious throttle hand is what will get you home alive, that and a strong survival instinct, coupled with a nice dash of good luck. As I see it, sportbikes are about having fun. I put serious miles on my bikes and need them to be as comfortable as possible due to some injuries that life has thrown my way over the years. Hence, I ride a comfortable bike like a bandit or a VTR. They are sensible in many regards, and a "function over form" kinda ride. I love that about them. That being said, I love a hot rod too. I also like having something different than everybody else. I won't ride a gsxryzfrzxcbr like everybody else, cause they don't fit me physically very well (they hurt) and because of squid connotations that the public lumps upon you when you ride something like that.
Also, Turbo's are a hell of a lot friendlier on a drivetrain and chassis compared to a N/A engine making similar power, due to the way the power hits, which is why I expect that a turbo'd VTR would survive a lot better than a built Erion Honda N/A bike would. None the less, if it doesn't, it turns out that VTR engines aren't that hard to come by.
I just see it as making a good thing that much better, and therefore, TOTALLY worth the effort. Not that I am saying its next on my list...everything around my house gets a turbo. I think the Jack Russell terrier is next.
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10-25-2007, 02:48 PM
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