General Discussion Anything SuperHawk Related

Snapple's VTR project.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 09-28-2014, 09:09 PM
  #1  
Junior Member
Squid
Thread Starter
 
SnappleKat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 13
SnappleKat is on a distinguished road
Snapple's VTR project.

I've been riding ever since I could drive, but I've driven the old school touring bikes with giant motors that way 1k lbs. I've always wanted a sports bike but until I could afford my own insurance it was a no go. Until now that is, I just picked up a 98' Superhawk that was dropped at what looks like low speeds. It's got 60k miles on it with a rebuilt carb, other than that it's all stock and looks like it was maintained decently (except for the drop of course). I've posted pictures and from what I gathered looking through the forums so far is that I definitely need to replace my R/R with a MOSFET R/R and replace the CCT's. I can work on any touring bike you throw at me. harley, victory, indian...etc, but the japanese street bikes are a realm unknown. Here's the pictures of the damage and some of the worn looking stuff. At some point the bike will be orange as Cali drivers are complete idiots and play their music too loud to hear the loudest of pipes. Other than that, I've no clue what to work on first. Here's the pictures

All and all, I don't think it was a bad buy for 1,200 bucks.
Name:  photo22.jpg
Views: 76
Size:  109.4 KB

Name:  photo43.jpg
Views: 50
Size:  99.3 KB
Name:  photo34.jpg
Views: 25
Size:  108.0 KB
Name:  photo23.jpg
Views: 63
Size:  113.1 KB
Name:  photo13.jpg
Views: 31
Size:  111.5 KB
SnappleKat is offline  
Old 09-28-2014, 09:41 PM
  #2  
Rex Kramer-Thrill Seeker
SuperBike
 
CruxGNZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Brookfield, WI
Posts: 2,312
CruxGNZ is on a distinguished road
Nice score Snapple! Sounds like you did your research.

Stuff to work on first, is exactly what you mention. CCT's and R/R. If you decide to leave the CCT's stock, the chances that the piston will get very intimate with the valves are pretty good sometime in the future. Not saying it WILL happen, but changing out the CCT's to MCCT's (Manual Cam Chain Tensioner) will ensure that this will never happen. It's good insurance.
If you don't change the R/R to a MOSFET type, you could fry the dash, the battery and/or start melting wiring connectors. Again, not saying this WILL happen, but the odds are it will.

As for the damage, it doesn't look bad at all! If those scratches aren't deep, then take the engine cover off and scuff it up and repaint it. The plastic doesn't look like it has any cracks. The cheap way of making it look nice, would be to just touch up the scratches with the correct color paint. But, if it were mine, I would take the plastics off, sand down the scratches, apply flexible filler, sand, primer and then paint. It's up to you. Depends on what you feel comfortable doing and what your budget dictates.

Good luck man. Keep us updated on your progress. Any questions, just search first, but if the answers are still not clear, feel free to post.

Oh, and maybe flush out that brake fluid and replace it with new. In the pictures it looks a little dark.

Last edited by CruxGNZ; 09-28-2014 at 09:47 PM.
CruxGNZ is offline  
Old 09-28-2014, 11:17 PM
  #3  
Junior Member
Squid
Thread Starter
 
SnappleKat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 13
SnappleKat is on a distinguished road
This picture is what I want the rear of the bike to look like. I want the other type of plastics on the front (the big one..haha i have no clue what they're called i just know i had a toy that looked just like this when i was little) but I want the plastics on the front to be black. not sure if i can use the same pipes or not.
Name:  HondaVTR1000FOrange.jpg
Views: 55
Size:  195.1 KB

I just noticed that it either idles at 2k rpm's or it won't idle at all. Not quite sure what's happening there.
SnappleKat is offline  
Old 09-28-2014, 11:43 PM
  #4  
Junior Member
Squid
Thread Starter
 
SnappleKat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 13
SnappleKat is on a distinguished road
So, i just took the plastics off for the first time. Looks like the R/R has already been replaced, if that's been done then there's a fair chance that the CCT's have been swapped out as well.

There's a gas smell in my oil, I'm thinking I have a bad carb float somewhere or a needle valve. I knew it needed a carb sync but definitely wasn't expecting this haha. Time to burn that midnight oil....no puns intended.
SnappleKat is offline  
Old 09-28-2014, 11:59 PM
  #5  
Rex Kramer-Thrill Seeker
SuperBike
 
CruxGNZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Brookfield, WI
Posts: 2,312
CruxGNZ is on a distinguished road
Originally Posted by SnappleKat
So, i just took the plastics off for the first time. Looks like the R/R has already been replaced, if that's been done then there's a fair chance that the CCT's have been swapped out as well.

There's a gas smell in my oil, I'm thinking I have a bad carb float somewhere or a needle valve. I knew it needed a carb sync but definitely wasn't expecting this haha. Time to burn that midnight oil....no puns intended.
It is very easy to check if the CCT's were replaced with manual ones. Do a search for a picture of manual CCT's and compare what you have. Unfortunately, I couldn't tell what you have in the pictures you posted.

As for the R/R, just because it's finned doesn't mean it is a MOSFET type. What is the part number on the R/R? If it starts with "SH", then it is a crappy shunt based unit. If the part number starts with "FH", then you have a MOSFET R/R.
CruxGNZ is offline  
Old 09-29-2014, 02:23 AM
  #6  
Senior Member
SuperBike
 
kenmoore's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: New South Wales Australia
Posts: 1,544
kenmoore is on a distinguished road
Do the PAIR mod, you can search it on here.

Also the Bernie Morgan Air filter mod.

Check your TPS

Makes the bike smoother.

To make it turn in better do the 6mm shock shim.

All things you can find on here.

Good luck and welcome!
kenmoore is offline  
Old 09-29-2014, 02:48 AM
  #7  
Senior Member
SuperSport
 
NZSpokes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Auckland, new Zealand
Posts: 932
NZSpokes is on a distinguished road
Originally Posted by SnappleKat
So, i just took the plastics off for the first time. Looks like the R/R has already been replaced, if that's been done then there's a fair chance that the CCT's have been swapped out as well.

There's a gas smell in my oil, I'm thinking I have a bad carb float somewhere or a needle valve. I knew it needed a carb sync but definitely wasn't expecting this haha. Time to burn that midnight oil....no puns intended.
Float valves failing are common. Easy fix.
NZSpokes is offline  
Old 09-29-2014, 10:39 AM
  #8  
Junior Member
Squid
Thread Starter
 
SnappleKat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 13
SnappleKat is on a distinguished road
I'm a bit confused at this point. Checked where the CCT's should be and there's nothing there, just a hole. If anyone could tell me what's going on, that would be great. haha
SnappleKat is offline  
Old 09-29-2014, 10:55 AM
  #9  
Senior Member
SuperSport
 
NZSpokes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Auckland, new Zealand
Posts: 932
NZSpokes is on a distinguished road
I can see it in your top photo....
NZSpokes is offline  
Old 09-29-2014, 12:13 PM
  #10  
Rex Kramer-Thrill Seeker
SuperBike
 
CruxGNZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Brookfield, WI
Posts: 2,312
CruxGNZ is on a distinguished road
Originally Posted by SnappleKat
I'm a bit confused at this point. Checked where the CCT's should be and there's nothing there, just a hole. If anyone could tell me what's going on, that would be great. haha
Check that same spot on the other side of the head. You'll see it.

Here, check out this MCCT installation thread. It will help you out with A LOT of pictures. Click here.
CruxGNZ is offline  
Old 09-29-2014, 01:26 PM
  #11  
Retired- but not tired!
SuperBike
 
CrankenFine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Pittsburgh
Posts: 1,478
CrankenFine is on a distinguished road
Originally Posted by NZSpokes
I can see it in your top photo....
You're right...and it's the OEM style.
CrankenFine is offline  
Old 10-01-2014, 04:51 PM
  #12  
Junior Member
Squid
Thread Starter
 
SnappleKat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 13
SnappleKat is on a distinguished road
Thanks for the posts guys! I'm about to start taking the bike apart. I haven't bought the parts yet but I need to do some carb work and tighten the chain anyways. it's got way too much play.
SnappleKat is offline  
Old 10-01-2014, 05:45 PM
  #13  
Junior Member
Squid
Thread Starter
 
SnappleKat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 13
SnappleKat is on a distinguished road
My only concern is that it's been running with the OEM for so long that once I tear it all apart, other problems might develop. This is my daily driver so hopefully it's not in pitiful shape.
SnappleKat is offline  
Old 10-02-2014, 03:31 PM
  #14  
Junior Member
Squid
Thread Starter
 
SnappleKat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 13
SnappleKat is on a distinguished road
Another question. I researched this and found mixed answer as to the rattling noise on the bike. It doesn't rattle when it idles (it only dies...alot ._. dirty carb). The only time it rattles is when I'm accelerating from a stopped position and it probably rattles on the freeway but other noises just drown it out. I was leaning towards the CCT's but since it doesn't happen all the time...I'm not sure. Any suggestions?
SnappleKat is offline  
Old 10-02-2014, 05:17 PM
  #15  
ole dirty bastard
SuperSport
 
hawxter996's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: my house
Posts: 975
hawxter996 is an unknown quantity at this point
could be running lean and detonating.
you said carbs need work?
hawxter996 is offline  
Old 10-02-2014, 06:39 PM
  #16  
Junior Member
Squid
Thread Starter
 
SnappleKat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 13
SnappleKat is on a distinguished road
Indeed they do. I can't work on it for another 3 weeks tho. I don't have the tools to resync the carb after cleaning it ._. I thought it was running a bit rich to be honest tho.
SnappleKat is offline  
Old 10-02-2014, 07:54 PM
  #17  
Rex Kramer-Thrill Seeker
SuperBike
 
CruxGNZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Brookfield, WI
Posts: 2,312
CruxGNZ is on a distinguished road
Originally Posted by SnappleKat
Indeed they do. I can't work on it for another 3 weeks tho. I don't have the tools to resync the carb after cleaning it ._. I thought it was running a bit rich to be honest tho.
You don't need anything expensive to snyc your carbs. Many people, incuding myself, have used the "Two Bottle Method" for syncing the carbs. Works fantastic. And, if your carbs are really off (which sounds like yours very well might be), the water or oil has no chance of getting sucked into the engine. Did I mention how much this two bottle method costs? Usually less than ten bucks. For me, less than two dollars, because I already had the plastic bottles in the recycling bin. Search for the two bottle method. It's very cheap, easy to make, and works quite well.

What you see below, is what I have used to sync the carbs on my bike and another forum member's bike with success.

Name:  20130720_213728.jpg
Views: 21
Size:  125.3 KB
CruxGNZ is offline  
Old 10-03-2014, 02:27 AM
  #18  
Senior Member
SuperBike
 
kenmoore's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: New South Wales Australia
Posts: 1,544
kenmoore is on a distinguished road
Could be carb slides rattling!

Could go on but could be a myriad of things causing the rattle.

Get those manual CCTs in pronto.

Could be valves, check those when you do fit the new ccts!

Not hard to do and great write up on how to do it right here.

Good luck mate.
kenmoore is offline  
Old 10-06-2014, 06:46 PM
  #19  
Junior Member
Squid
Thread Starter
 
SnappleKat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 13
SnappleKat is on a distinguished road
What's the best CCT to get? in terms of longevity. I'm not very nice to my vehicles. Case in point. On my Victory, I had to replace my rear tire 3x within 10k miles. I had to replace my rotors and break pads 5x within 5k miles. I go fast and break hard. That's alot of strain on the motor, and other equipment of the bike. What's the most durable?
SnappleKat is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
cyphertheory
Classifieds
4
08-05-2012 02:43 PM
aka Yamadog
General Discussion
0
11-09-2009 05:45 AM
vtrracer69
Modifications - Cosmetic
104
01-14-2008 02:30 PM
seaton001
Modifications - Performance
37
05-08-2007 12:45 PM
crazybrit
Classifieds
3
04-22-2007 04:57 PM



Quick Reply: Snapple's VTR project.



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 12:57 AM.