People who have done the superbike bars... long term thoughts
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People who have done the superbike bars... long term thoughts
I've seen that several people here drilled their clamp, installed offroad style risers and superbike bars.
I've got the parts to do it to mine, and wanted to ask about long term durability.
No issues with the stock triple being too weak? No cracks,warping, etc?
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I've got the parts to do it to mine, and wanted to ask about long term durability.
No issues with the stock triple being too weak? No cracks,warping, etc?
Thanks!
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I had the same concerns when I drilled my triple. But that was 3000 miles ago and no problems at all. It is the best mod I have done. It took a little getting used to but I am completly happy with it. No signs of cracking and wear. You won't regret doing it.
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Same for me and I've done it on other bikes. this includes street riding and some track time.
The only thing I DON"T do that is different from stock, is if I trailer the bike I don't use the bars to secure the bike or a canyon dancer. Maybe wouldn't be a problem but I don't want that much force on a bolt in the triple that wasn't reenforced for that purpose.
The only thing I DON"T do that is different from stock, is if I trailer the bike I don't use the bars to secure the bike or a canyon dancer. Maybe wouldn't be a problem but I don't want that much force on a bolt in the triple that wasn't reenforced for that purpose.
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Yeah, i can see where that would be a problem.
Of course, if i'm trailering the bike, it'll probably be for a track day, in which case the clipons will be back on it.
Thanks for the feedback. I am using SV650 angled bar mounts and a superbike bar
Of course, if i'm trailering the bike, it'll probably be for a track day, in which case the clipons will be back on it.
Thanks for the feedback. I am using SV650 angled bar mounts and a superbike bar
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hey guys, with the super bars installed do you need to swap out the brake, clutch and throttle lines??
my friend and i were out Sunday, he has an aprillia tuano and i noticed how i liked the look and seating position
really thinking about this
my friend and i were out Sunday, he has an aprillia tuano and i noticed how i liked the look and seating position
really thinking about this
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I didn't have to swap out anything. It probably depends on where you drill the holes, the bend of the bar, and the length of your houses. My hoses are aftermarket and might be longer than stock, I don't know.
If you go naked you need to get a perch or go with a bar-end mirror, of course, and figure out how to hang the brake cup. If you stay with the fairing, you usually have to trim it down, but it seems like some people have figured out how to do it without trimming.
I like the bike better naked, but that's me. BUT: I had to burn down the highway the other day for around 200 miles and really wished I'd kept the fairing. I'll probably end up with a 919 fly screen at some point.
If you go naked you need to get a perch or go with a bar-end mirror, of course, and figure out how to hang the brake cup. If you stay with the fairing, you usually have to trim it down, but it seems like some people have figured out how to do it without trimming.
I like the bike better naked, but that's me. BUT: I had to burn down the highway the other day for around 200 miles and really wished I'd kept the fairing. I'll probably end up with a 919 fly screen at some point.
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search for superbike bars, or another thread called fatbars and there are lots of pics. I had to go 2 in. longer brake lines for this and I think with an actual 'superbike' bar bend in use that is necessary. the clutch works fine. You may also have to trim the underside of the fairing 'wings' that go up along side the windshield. I waited years to do this, which was really dumb, as its very easy to do a very neat job of it without weakening the support or looking 'hacked'. the riding position is perfect and its still as sporting a bike, as you know if you've tried a tuono before.
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get a top triple clamp from ebay $30+-
get a top triple clamp from ebay and install it on top of the original.
you will have to cut the ignition key mount off.
then you can go back easy.
i did it because i was having the same thoughts.
i like to be able to recover from experiments gone wrong.
plus you can size up the lines and cables for fit.
bar mounts $18 drag bar $25 triple clamp $30
not bad brake lines barley reach more pix later
you will have to cut the ignition key mount off.
then you can go back easy.
i did it because i was having the same thoughts.
i like to be able to recover from experiments gone wrong.
plus you can size up the lines and cables for fit.
bar mounts $18 drag bar $25 triple clamp $30
not bad brake lines barley reach more pix later
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Because the bottom surface of the stock upper clamp is less than flat, I clamped it to my milling machine table and cut shallow (just enough to get a flat surface) reliefs around the handlebar riser bolt holes. Then I fired up the lathe and made a pair of snug fitting 1 1/8" OD spacer/washers out of 1/4" aluminum.
I have no qualms about using the handlebars to tie the bike down, it is hell for stout!
As to brake and clutch lines, IIRC, mine (Spieglers) are about 3" longer than stock. The throttle cables could stand to be a few inches longer as well, mainly to route them in a more sanitary manner, but there's no rush as they are usable as is.
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Yeah, just got done welding a bit on to the stops on the lower triple and then grinding them down so I have just the perfect range of travel without contacting my oversize tank. I went with the superbike bend bikemaster bar. I had braided lines and it fit fine. Couldn't go any higher on the bend, but it it worked well and was the fit I was looking for, though I had to trim the fairing a healthy amount to get all the necessary clearance lock to lock. That's the price for comfort I guess, though it's not too noticable, especially if I ever get around to touching up the paint where I trimmed it. Biggest thing is it changes your weight distribution on the bike and takes a bit of fiddling to get the suspension right again. Going to enjoy it on my long trip into Cali in a few weeks vs. last year with stock position Helibars though...
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One thing to consider that was mentioned a few months ago: The SH is a rear-biased bike, and going from the low clip ons to high bars will reposition your weight. In reality the distribution between front and rear was about the same as a SV650 or S3, so you're not doing anything too drastic, but for folks used to very aggressive sport riding... well, it will be different.
Turn ins seem much faster to me, but long sweepers are somewhat less stable... not unsafe, mind you, but less stable. And rider input is different. You have a lot of leverage with the wide bars, much more than you do with the narrow clip ons, but (for me) you also feel a little less engaged with the machine.
This is again dependent on where you drill the holes and your bar... If you drill closer to the headlight, you are more likely to still put your weight over the front. And all this said, I wouldn't go back to the clip ons. The mod makes the bike much more comfortable for everything except highway rides, and I'm sure the slab would be fine had I kept my fairing.
Turn ins seem much faster to me, but long sweepers are somewhat less stable... not unsafe, mind you, but less stable. And rider input is different. You have a lot of leverage with the wide bars, much more than you do with the narrow clip ons, but (for me) you also feel a little less engaged with the machine.
This is again dependent on where you drill the holes and your bar... If you drill closer to the headlight, you are more likely to still put your weight over the front. And all this said, I wouldn't go back to the clip ons. The mod makes the bike much more comfortable for everything except highway rides, and I'm sure the slab would be fine had I kept my fairing.
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search for superbike bars, or another thread called fatbars and there are lots of pics. I had to go 2 in. longer brake lines for this and I think with an actual 'superbike' bar bend in use that is necessary. the clutch works fine. You may also have to trim the underside of the fairing 'wings' that go up along side the windshield. I waited years to do this, which was really dumb, as its very easy to do a very neat job of it without weakening the support or looking 'hacked'. the riding position is perfect and its still as sporting a bike, as you know if you've tried a tuono before.
I also went 2 inches longer with the brake line. I used a 2 inch riser and a superbike bar. The brake line would have reached if I unbolted in from the bracket behind the fairing but it was very tight and made me uneasy so I went to stainless lines. It was an unexpected upgrade but once you have a stainless front brake rider input is less and feedback from the brake is better as well.
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Crashrat, Agreed. It rides differently. Not bad, not better, not worse, just differently. It will appeal to a lot of people looking for more comfort, but it definitely feels less like a committed sportbike position when in the twisties...which was something that I liked about the clip-ons. That said, I love it the rest of the time. But you certainly aren't hanging off of the bike the way you were before. It's much more akin to the riding position of my bandit now. I'll have a better idea about it's sporting potential after I get back from Cali in a few weeks though, hitting some of the same roads I did last year when it had the clip-ons.
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