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Old 01-11-2014, 08:13 AM
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LED replacement headlight

Stumbled across this in the latest issue of Motoryclist magazine:
EC - LED Headlight Bulb - H4 High/Low

May have to give it a try at some point.....
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Old 01-11-2014, 09:26 AM
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And they're giving them away, too!
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yes, that is the whole premise of the capitalist system... to give stuff away......
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I think this might be the same for cheaper click here

Then there is the DIY LED headlight (not sure how good these are though) click here
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Originally Posted by CruxGNZ
I think this might be the same for cheaper click here

Then there is the DIY LED headlight (not sure how good these are though) click here
Very steampunk!
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Yeah, someone quick try this. My issue with grey market led stuff is that by the time you realize it doesnt last very long, its too late to try for a refund.

Someone buy one and be a guinea pig.
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As soon as DDMtuning starts selling them with a warranty I will buy one, I refuse to be the guinea pig!
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Not it. I'm getting ready to do a projector.
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I'd be curious to see some documentation or third party confirmation of the light source being identical to a halogen bulb. From looking into HID bulbs this is much harder said than done, and more importantly, some HID companies claim that they figured out a way to make it work when in face physics shows that this is impossible for all intents and purposes.

Not saying the LED's don't work in stock reflectors, but it's easy to claim they do to get more sales... especially if the person selling knows that this is a complaint of HID's.

Good old Sunday morning cynicism!
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Originally Posted by VTR1000F
Not it. I'm getting ready to do a projector.
You're pulling out all the stops! Did you figure out how to paint your pistons yellow yet?
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Old 01-12-2014, 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by mikstr
Stumbled across this in the latest issue of Motoryclist magazine:
EC - LED Headlight Bulb - H4 High/Low

May have to give it a try at some point.....
At 80$ to see where you're actually going at night, that's a good deal IMHO. I've seen some kits being spoken of on this forum in the past, well into the hundreds of dollars.
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Originally Posted by CruxGNZ
I think this might be the same for cheaper click here
Anytime a seller shows a photo facing the vehicle (or two) they immediately drop in credibility in my book. Why on earth would that be relevant to any kind of beam control (other than to show how annoying you will be to other cars)? The photo they do show of the beam is vague and not compared to anything relevant.
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Old 01-12-2014, 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by 7moore7
You're pulling out all the stops! Did you figure out how to paint your pistons yellow yet?
Not yet. But he's working hard on it.
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Originally Posted by Jack Flash
At 80$ to see where you're actually going at night, that's a good deal IMHO. I've seen some kits being spoken of on this forum in the past, well into the hundreds of dollars.
An equivalent HID kit is about the same. By that I mean plug and play.
Motorcycle: Morimoto Elite HID System (H4-1) - HID Systems from The Retrofit Source Inc

A full on HID retrofit done correctly will run you $150-200. This is what I am curious about. If you look at LED reflectors as sold stock (such as off road lights), they look nothing like a stock vehicle projector. So I am very skeptical about the claim that you can just drop them in and they have the same light source and pattern as an H4 bulb. Especially since LED's project a cone of light. How on earth they could get 360 degree of light matching an H4 bulb out of this should be explained in detail IMO.
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Originally Posted by CruxGNZ
Then there is the DIY LED headlight (not sure how good these are though) click here
I honestly think these are the best option! Lights inside of reflectors that were designed for the source! My not have a cutoff beam, but at least you'd have even light distribution.
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One of those kits was sold with a cooling fan. Heat dissapation is an issue with high-wattage LED lamps.
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A review on a similar product. Wonder if you could get this one to fit.
Cree LED H4 headlight bulbs (2000lm) - MX-5 Miata Forum
Some other discussion on the subject.
http://www.svrider.com/forum/archive.../t-145689.html

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Originally Posted by xeris
A review on a similar product. Wonder if you could get this one to fit.
Cree LED H4 headlight bulbs (2000lm) - MX-5 Miata Forum
thanks for that.... seems to work pretty well from what I can see..... especially for free
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Originally Posted by 7moore7
You're pulling out all the stops! Did you figure out how to paint your pistons yellow yet?
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Not yet. But he's working hard on it.
I'm helping one of my boys with his Klondike Derby sled for Boy Scouts today or I'd have the time to post a witty, insightful, scathingly sarcastic, albeit humorous reply to your hurtful, mean-spirited comments. Consider yourselves lucky today.
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Originally Posted by VTR1000F
I'm helping one of my boys with his Klondike Derby sled for Boy Scouts today or I'd have the time to post a witty, insightful, scathingly sarcastic, albeit humorous reply to your hurtful, mean-spirited comments. Consider yourselves lucky today.
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LED - HID


**** em all - I can't change the regular H4 bulb



Why? - my hands are too big and won't fit in that area - I had to hire a small Nippon woman to do it - she had a Winter bush too
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Old 01-12-2014, 05:18 PM
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This kinda has something to do with this thread. A review of different types of headlights LED, HID, H4, etc. Thought you guys might find it interesting.
Click here
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Funny to see a link to Pirate4X4 on here. I've spent some quality time there learning to do Jeep regears and the like!!



Originally Posted by Jack Flash
At 80$ to see where you're actually going at night, that's a good deal IMHO.
I'm not claiming to be the know-it-all of lighting, but I just discovered something. The LED bulb is claiming an output of 1800 lumens. The Hella 100/55w bulb that I run claims 2900. Maybe the LED isn't as great as expected [yet]!
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Originally Posted by 7moore7
I'd be curious to see some documentation or third party confirmation of the light source being identical to a halogen bulb. From looking into HID bulbs this is much harder said than done, and more importantly, some HID companies claim that they figured out a way to make it work when in face physics shows that this is impossible for all intents and purposes.

Not saying the LED's don't work in stock reflectors, but it's easy to claim they do to get more sales... especially if the person selling knows that this is a complaint of HID's.

Good old Sunday morning cynicism!
Proof is in the pictures,, I know you've seen them as you said as much on the other board.

So if the ,manufacturer say they work, and users say they work, and users post pictures that say they work... whats left? How long the work i suppose....

I get it, you can not wrap your heard around the theory on how they work, how the LED distributes light in a like manner to the Halogen bulb.. I understand that .. yet it does from what we all can see so far.

Look forward to more folks providing feedback..cuz Im skeptical as well.

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Originally Posted by Wolverine
Funny to see a link to Pirate4X4 on here. I've spent some quality time there learning to do Jeep regears and the like!!!
LOL, I've been at Pirate since about 97, stopped hanging out there when I got out of racing off road trucks.

Raunchy bunch... would fit right in here if they had a SH
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Originally Posted by E.Marquez
I get it, you can not wrap your heard around the theory on how they work, how the LED distributes light in a like manner to the Halogen bulb.. I understand that .. yet it does from what we all can see so far.
Haha, it wouldn't be the first time that I'm stumped by my own imagination.

I guess I'm mostly hesitant because things that seem too good or to easy to be true usually are. I love LED's... anyone who tries this I would definitely request some documentation of the before and after!

Plus, if these turn out to work, I've gotta buy LED's for all my vehicles, haha!
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Originally Posted by Wolverine
Funny to see a link to Pirate4X4 on here. I've spent some quality time there learning to do Jeep regears and the like!!
That's pretty awesome... I've been in and out of that site as well as a visitor. I'm pretty new to the Jeep scene, but we have a bunch of crawling in AZ! What's your setup? I've been building up an 01 XJ for the last year and a half now:

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That miata forum test does look convincing, but I am still worried about lifespan.

Also, am I nuts or could one of us buy that kit for $120 and sell the 2nd bulb for 60?

(I realize I may be nuts on several other fronts)
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Originally Posted by CruxGNZ
I think this might be the same for cheaper click here
Been staring at that Ebay kit and the one from Electrical connection EC - LED Headlight Bulb - H4 High/Low
for an hour now...

I "think" the ballast (driver) and the LED bulb are the same components, and all wiring is the same except the plug that pulls power from the OEM headlight socket.

I highly doubt Electrical connection is manufacturing the ballast in house, and both LOOK identical right down to the recessed area for the decal.

Same with the bulb / fan assembly

Same with the connectors for fan and bulb.

The only difference I can see is the headlight socket and EC adds a piece of cut of PVC pipe as a "spacer" to keep the OEM rubber boot from touching the fan.

Anyone notice anything else different?

So unless the CREE LEDs on the Ebay one are fakes... Id bet both suppliers are sourcing the major components from the same source.

Ebay overseas dealer,, $58 to my door
EC dealer $88 to my door.. EC states "Most of our products are hand-made in our Knoxville, Tennessee facility" My guess is that is assembled, not made..

Thoughts?

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Screw it, Im in.. Just dropped the order..

At worst I'm out $60 and a few days time testing.

5-7 buisness days from now I should have it in my hands
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