LED replacement headlight
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LED replacement headlight
Stumbled across this in the latest issue of Motoryclist magazine:
EC - LED Headlight Bulb - H4 High/Low
May have to give it a try at some point.....
EC - LED Headlight Bulb - H4 High/Low
May have to give it a try at some point.....
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I think this might be the same for cheaper click here
Then there is the DIY LED headlight (not sure how good these are though) click here
Then there is the DIY LED headlight (not sure how good these are though) click here
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I think this might be the same for cheaper click here
Then there is the DIY LED headlight (not sure how good these are though) click here
Then there is the DIY LED headlight (not sure how good these are though) click here
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I'd be curious to see some documentation or third party confirmation of the light source being identical to a halogen bulb. From looking into HID bulbs this is much harder said than done, and more importantly, some HID companies claim that they figured out a way to make it work when in face physics shows that this is impossible for all intents and purposes.
Not saying the LED's don't work in stock reflectors, but it's easy to claim they do to get more sales... especially if the person selling knows that this is a complaint of HID's.
Good old Sunday morning cynicism!
Not saying the LED's don't work in stock reflectors, but it's easy to claim they do to get more sales... especially if the person selling knows that this is a complaint of HID's.
Good old Sunday morning cynicism!
Well take off, eh.
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Stumbled across this in the latest issue of Motoryclist magazine:
EC - LED Headlight Bulb - H4 High/Low
May have to give it a try at some point.....
EC - LED Headlight Bulb - H4 High/Low
May have to give it a try at some point.....
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I think this might be the same for cheaper click here
Not yet. But he's working hard on it.
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Motorcycle: Morimoto Elite HID System (H4-1) - HID Systems from The Retrofit Source Inc
A full on HID retrofit done correctly will run you $150-200. This is what I am curious about. If you look at LED reflectors as sold stock (such as off road lights), they look nothing like a stock vehicle projector. So I am very skeptical about the claim that you can just drop them in and they have the same light source and pattern as an H4 bulb. Especially since LED's project a cone of light. How on earth they could get 360 degree of light matching an H4 bulb out of this should be explained in detail IMO.
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Then there is the DIY LED headlight (not sure how good these are though) click here
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A review on a similar product. Wonder if you could get this one to fit.
Cree LED H4 headlight bulbs (2000lm) - MX-5 Miata Forum
Some other discussion on the subject.
http://www.svrider.com/forum/archive.../t-145689.html
Cree LED H4 headlight bulbs (2000lm) - MX-5 Miata Forum
Some other discussion on the subject.
http://www.svrider.com/forum/archive.../t-145689.html
Last edited by xeris; Jan 12, 2014 at 08:07 AM. Reason: add link
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A review on a similar product. Wonder if you could get this one to fit.
Cree LED H4 headlight bulbs (2000lm) - MX-5 Miata Forum
Cree LED H4 headlight bulbs (2000lm) - MX-5 Miata Forum
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Well take off, eh.
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This kinda has something to do with this thread. A review of different types of headlights LED, HID, H4, etc. Thought you guys might find it interesting.
Click here
Click here
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Funny to see a link to Pirate4X4 on here. I've spent some quality time there learning to do Jeep regears and the like!!
I'm not claiming to be the know-it-all of lighting, but I just discovered something. The LED bulb is claiming an output of 1800 lumens. The Hella 100/55w bulb that I run claims 2900. Maybe the LED isn't as great as expected [yet]!
I'm not claiming to be the know-it-all of lighting, but I just discovered something. The LED bulb is claiming an output of 1800 lumens. The Hella 100/55w bulb that I run claims 2900. Maybe the LED isn't as great as expected [yet]!
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I'd be curious to see some documentation or third party confirmation of the light source being identical to a halogen bulb. From looking into HID bulbs this is much harder said than done, and more importantly, some HID companies claim that they figured out a way to make it work when in face physics shows that this is impossible for all intents and purposes.
Not saying the LED's don't work in stock reflectors, but it's easy to claim they do to get more sales... especially if the person selling knows that this is a complaint of HID's.
Good old Sunday morning cynicism!
Not saying the LED's don't work in stock reflectors, but it's easy to claim they do to get more sales... especially if the person selling knows that this is a complaint of HID's.
Good old Sunday morning cynicism!
So if the ,manufacturer say they work, and users say they work, and users post pictures that say they work... whats left? How long the work i suppose....
I get it, you can not wrap your heard around the theory on how they work, how the LED distributes light in a like manner to the Halogen bulb.. I understand that .. yet it does from what we all can see so far.
Look forward to more folks providing feedback..cuz Im skeptical as well.
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Raunchy bunch... would fit right in here if they had a SH
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I guess I'm mostly hesitant because things that seem too good or to easy to be true usually are. I love LED's... anyone who tries this I would definitely request some documentation of the before and after!
Plus, if these turn out to work, I've gotta buy LED's for all my vehicles, haha!
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Thread jackin' like a ****!
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That miata forum test does look convincing, but I am still worried about lifespan.
Also, am I nuts or could one of us buy that kit for $120 and sell the 2nd bulb for 60?
(I realize I may be nuts on several other fronts)
Also, am I nuts or could one of us buy that kit for $120 and sell the 2nd bulb for 60?
(I realize I may be nuts on several other fronts)
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I think this might be the same for cheaper click here
for an hour now...
I "think" the ballast (driver) and the LED bulb are the same components, and all wiring is the same except the plug that pulls power from the OEM headlight socket.
I highly doubt Electrical connection is manufacturing the ballast in house, and both LOOK identical right down to the recessed area for the decal.
Same with the bulb / fan assembly
Same with the connectors for fan and bulb.
The only difference I can see is the headlight socket and EC adds a piece of cut of PVC pipe as a "spacer" to keep the OEM rubber boot from touching the fan.
Anyone notice anything else different?
So unless the CREE LEDs on the Ebay one are fakes... Id bet both suppliers are sourcing the major components from the same source.
Ebay overseas dealer,, $58 to my door
EC dealer $88 to my door.. EC states "Most of our products are hand-made in our Knoxville, Tennessee facility" My guess is that is assembled, not made..
Thoughts?
Last edited by E.Marquez; Jan 15, 2014 at 07:15 AM.
