Hawk that has been down, possible damage
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Hawk that has been down, possible damage
I'm looking at another '99 SuperHawk.
This one has only about 4k miles since new.
The seller disclosed damage sustained 6 years ago when the rider dismounted (at hiway speed) somehow with the bike continuing down the road for some time in a straight line. Finally the bike lost energy and tipped on its right side. The right cover and fairing were replaced as well as a peg and lever.
I have a friend who says he will not buy a ride that has seen this type of accident since the engine may have been starved for oil or received some other damage that may show up later.
I am not sure how many miles have been put on since the incident, but again, it was 6 years ago.
I started the engine myself after it had been sitting for 6 weeks. after running for about 15 seconds it sounded ok with no funny noises. But upon first starting, the first couple of twists of the throttle caused some kind of vibration. Something felt rough. It seemed to shake a little. Not loud or anything. And it smoothed out after 10 seconds or less.
Anyway, the bike is really spotless now and a sweet example. But I am now wondering if I have to worry about starvation or other damage the dropping may have caused. Do these have a kill switch? Any ideas or things to suggest I might look for? I plan to have the cash by Monday and test ride/make a deal.
This one has only about 4k miles since new.
The seller disclosed damage sustained 6 years ago when the rider dismounted (at hiway speed) somehow with the bike continuing down the road for some time in a straight line. Finally the bike lost energy and tipped on its right side. The right cover and fairing were replaced as well as a peg and lever.
I have a friend who says he will not buy a ride that has seen this type of accident since the engine may have been starved for oil or received some other damage that may show up later.
I am not sure how many miles have been put on since the incident, but again, it was 6 years ago.
I started the engine myself after it had been sitting for 6 weeks. after running for about 15 seconds it sounded ok with no funny noises. But upon first starting, the first couple of twists of the throttle caused some kind of vibration. Something felt rough. It seemed to shake a little. Not loud or anything. And it smoothed out after 10 seconds or less.
Anyway, the bike is really spotless now and a sweet example. But I am now wondering if I have to worry about starvation or other damage the dropping may have caused. Do these have a kill switch? Any ideas or things to suggest I might look for? I plan to have the cash by Monday and test ride/make a deal.
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Check for bent brackets, subframes (front & rear), straightened / cracked peg hangers, symmetry of exhaust and back of bike looking from rear. That mounting points for the exhausts are all true.
Was the clutch cover holed through and is so did any debris get an opportunity to enter the engine?
Bid low :-)
Also has it had MCCTs fitted and an upgraded R/R - if not knock some more off....
Was the clutch cover holed through and is so did any debris get an opportunity to enter the engine?
Bid low :-)
Also has it had MCCTs fitted and an upgraded R/R - if not knock some more off....
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I will ask if the cover was worn enough to to allow debris into engine. As far as I can see, the chassis , heck everything, is undamaged and beautiful .
lolololol, oh man... how?.... why?... i dont get it 
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Just watch some youtube videos. There are LOTS of them with squids that think they can be a "numba one stunna", then get thier friends to videotape it all. It's fantastic to watch.
That one guy
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Always bid low. What's the worst thing he can do? Say no. Then bump your price up a bit. Still no? A little more up? Still no? It's easier then hagaling with a used car dealer.
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There is some funny stuff on here......
Personally I wouldn't worry to much about engine damage.
While there is no "kill" switch when they go on their side, they tend to shut themselves off pretty quickly.
On a personal note. my bike has been tossed down the road 3 times in the last 17 1\2 years.
No issues with engine damage on any of them.
As for the rest of the bike, that is for you to decide if it is worth it to you but since the engine runs fine ( the rough running at first is common if they have sat for a while) I would put that worry out of your mind.
Personally I wouldn't worry to much about engine damage.
While there is no "kill" switch when they go on their side, they tend to shut themselves off pretty quickly.
On a personal note. my bike has been tossed down the road 3 times in the last 17 1\2 years.
No issues with engine damage on any of them.
As for the rest of the bike, that is for you to decide if it is worth it to you but since the engine runs fine ( the rough running at first is common if they have sat for a while) I would put that worry out of your mind.
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M,
Yes , accidents can happen to all of us.
Thank you for addressing my concern and the input regarding the engine is likely ok.
With some luck, I will be posting some photos next week . I know my way around the VTR a little better now so this one should be quicker to sort out.
Dan
Yes , accidents can happen to all of us.
Thank you for addressing my concern and the input regarding the engine is likely ok.
With some luck, I will be posting some photos next week . I know my way around the VTR a little better now so this one should be quicker to sort out.
Dan
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Finally borrowed a buddy's trailer and picked up the yellow '99. So far I am very happy with it and will be posting the red one on CL. I know, yellow is... yellow. But it's growing on me.
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So are you keeping the yellow one simply because it has less mileage than your red one?
Do you plan to swap out all the good parts to the one you're keeping (maybe even swap the carbs straight over?), then selling off a basically stock Superhawk?
Have you considered swapping over your red parts too?
James
Do you plan to swap out all the good parts to the one you're keeping (maybe even swap the carbs straight over?), then selling off a basically stock Superhawk?
Have you considered swapping over your red parts too?
James
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J,
Ha! Yes I considered swapping the red parts. Is the yellow that undesirable?
It's a very clean bike with some of its own extras as well.
Well a CL buyer totally flaked on me last night (imagine that) so they may both just stay in the garage for a while.
Ha! Yes I considered swapping the red parts. Is the yellow that undesirable?
It's a very clean bike with some of its own extras as well.Well a CL buyer totally flaked on me last night (imagine that) so they may both just stay in the garage for a while.
Last edited by Hangfly; Jul 15, 2015 at 08:27 AM.
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Undesirable? Certainly to some. I don't like the SH in red. Mine is yellow. I love this bike in yellow. Keep what you like, not what others like.
And then, of course, the yellow's faster. So there's that.
And then, of course, the yellow's faster. So there's that.
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I'm letting all the stuff go with the red one. Going to miss the saddle damn it. Have new stick coils, RR, and carb parts on the way for when I tear into the yellow one. This one (yellow) is suffering from flatulence.
I will post some photos for you guys soon since I need some feedback on a couple things.
I will post some photos for you guys soon since I need some feedback on a couple things.
Last edited by Hangfly; Jul 16, 2015 at 07:21 AM.
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