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Front Paddock Stand??

Hey all, Iíve been looking into front stand options to purchase for maintenance and off-season storage and came across this one from R&G. Looks to have a set of pins that seat into the bottom of the front forks.

Anyone currently have this or had one in the past? Iíve already got a rear stand but would like to have a front as well. Thanks in advance!



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That style works as long as your not removing the front wheel..

So if its just to get the tire off the ground, spin the wheel to clean, ect they work.

If your plans include the front wheel coming off, you need a pin stand that holds from under the steering stem
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Itís mostly for cleaning and off season storage but definitely good feedback...was mostly curious if the pin design works on those stands. All Iíve usually seen have a different bike mount part. Iíd really like one of the full ABBA lifts but Iím tryin to ball on a budget haha
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If you can find one with these style ends, you will be able to remove the front wheel.



I use one like this at work. They can be slightly opened and closed to fit every bike out there.
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Iíve actually got a front stand like the red one ^^^ from when I had my zx6r, but it is super sketchy as the forks donít seem stable between the stand rollers. The brake caliper mount posts on the forks where the back roller basically ďhooksĒ under arenít as low on the Super Hawks as they are on the supersports Iíve found.

Probably going to look into the pin-style stands now that I know other ppl use them and Iím not crazy haha
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Originally Posted by Wolverine View Post
If you can find one with these style ends, you will be able to remove the front wheel.



I use one like this at work. They can be slightly opened and closed to fit every bike out there.
You can but I do not recommend it. With the fork legs able to move interdependently, its a crash in the garage waiting to happen

Yes I know people that do it anyway,,,,,I also have seen the bike fall over because they were using that type of front stand.

The pin type steering head stand is just a more stable design ..
To each his own
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I use the pitbull front stand here:
https://www.pit-bull.com/motorcycle-...tand-f0100-100

Love it, no wobble or issues, and it fits all my bikes.
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Originally Posted by E.Marquez View Post
You can but I do not recommend it. With the fork legs able to move interdependently, its a crash in the garage waiting to happen

Yes I know people that do it anyway,,,,,I also have seen the bike fall over because they were using that type of front stand.

The pin type steering head stand is just a more stable design ..
To each his own
I've been using that very style in my home garage for loooooong time. I've never had an issue with instability. I think it would take great effort to spin a leg on mine. Guess to each his own.




The steering stem type are good for fork removal, yes. If you want and can afford it, go that way.
Having known what I know after 3+ years at the shop, I would have definitely gone with the pin style. The only issue with them is sometimes the pins hit axle or pinch bolts. That's the only thing I'd watch for on first usage.
The pins would not work with my Ducati though. So what I have gets used for it when needed. Never felt sketchy.

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I love my headstand, its very stable and I can easily remove the wheel and forks for servicing.
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Originally Posted by Cadbury64 View Post

I love my headstand, its very stable and I can easily remove the wheel and forks for servicing.

What brand is this might I ask? I had a PSR head-stand with pin that I tried too for the S/H but the head tubing hit the nose fairing. Thatíd be my only concern with headstands. Otherwise those would be the solid choice I think. Just donít wanna rest it on the bodywork lol...granted I may not have had the proper head-pin during the mock up attempt so Iíll totally own that lol
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What brand is this might I ask? I had a PSR head-stand with pin that I tried too for the S/H but the head tubing hit the nose fairing. Thatíd be my only concern with headstands. Otherwise those would be the solid choice I think. Just donít wanna rest it on the bodywork lol...granted I may not have had the proper head-pin during the mock up attempt so Iíll totally own that lol
I have a PSR and Pitbull head lift stands.. BOTH will hit the fairing as you lift if you do not use the correct pin and position the lift correctly (and of course the bike needs to be on the rear stand first)

If I control the front lift position on the floor, I can get the bike up and not have the lift touch the fender or fairing under the headlight.
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I'm partial to the K&L front stand. It works on all the motorcycles I own...well not the '83 Riva...

www.klsupply.com 37-8374 Used this on my race bikes at the track to put on tire warmers, change tires, take off forks...etc
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Originally Posted by Goose86 View Post



What brand is this might I ask? I had a PSR head-stand with pin that I tried too for the S/H but the head tubing hit the nose fairing. That’d be my only concern with headstands. Otherwise those would be the solid choice I think. Just don’t wanna rest it on the bodywork lol...granted I may not have had the proper head-pin during the mock up attempt so I’ll totally own that lol
I bought it locally from Torpedo 7, had to get a different sized lifting pin to fit the VTR, but it makes no contact with the fairing. I'm sure this is made in China somewhere.

https://www.torpedo7.co.nz/products/...ead-lift-stand
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I have had a pin style for eons.

It came with a variety of pins and so far touch wood it has worked on a wide variety of bikes.

I am sacred of the stands that go under the fork legs. I have witnessed a few "Clamities" with them however, Hey Ho.

Pin type for me.
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Originally Posted by Cadbury64 View Post
I bought it locally from Torpedo 7, had to get a different sized lifting pin to fit the VTR, but it makes no contact with the fairing. I'm sure this is made in China somewhere.

https://www.torpedo7.co.nz/products/...ead-lift-stand

Thanks!! May have to look into this. Yea Iím sure it is but if it works I canít really knock it lol

What lift pin did you have to get? Dimension/size maybe?

I like that it doesnít make any contact with the nose fairing and I agree it is probably the best option as it allows for full front-end work. 👍🏻👍🏻
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Thanks!! May have to look into this. Yea Iím sure it is but if it works I canít really knock it lol

What lift pin did you have to get? Dimension/size maybe?

I like that it doesnít make any contact with the nose fairing and I agree it is probably the best option as it allows for full front-end work. 👍🏻👍🏻
The one I use came with a pack of about half dozen different size pins. I'll look today and see if it has a brand name on it.
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Take a look at this.
https://abbastandsusa.com/product-de...ke-stand&pid=1

I made a copy from plans here. Did a couple of changes, improvements I think.
Home made ABBA type paddock stand dimensions and pics - VTR1000.ORG
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Take a look at this.
https://abbastandsusa.com/product-de...ke-stand&pid=1

I made a copy from plans here. Did a couple of changes, improvements I think.
Home made ABBA type paddock stand dimensions and pics - VTR1000.ORG
The Abba stuff is nice, but darn pricey delivered to the US

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The one I use came with a pack of about half dozen different size pins. I'll look today and see if it has a brand name on it.
Sounds good, fortunately my best friends dad works at one of the local dealers so I can probably get the pin Iíd need but the size info would definitely be helpful!!

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The Abba stuff is nice, but darn pricey delivered to the US
Yeah it is!! Iíve looked at their stuff and is pretty slick but Iíd have to start moon-lighting to afford it hahaha
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I had to improvise a pin using a 17mm Ĺ" socket



Just remember to put a towel on the front mudguard/fender to avaoid scratches
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Originally Posted by Wicky View Post
Just remember to put a towel on the front mudguard/fender to avaoid scratches
Silicone hot pad or mouse pad works well and "sticks" to the fender
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I had to improvise a pin using a 17mm Ĺ" socket



Just remember to put a towel on the front mudguard/fender to avaoid scratches
That stand looks identical to the one I have Wicky, barring the colour (yours is definitely faster).
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As Wicky pictured, I have to use a 17mm (deep well in my case)socket. The outter diameter of that mic’d 23.32mm. Biggest pin we have is an 18. But one of the pins fit nicely in the socket so it’s tight.
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Originally Posted by Wolverine View Post
As Wicky pictured, I have to use a 17mm (deep well in my case)socket. The outter diameter of that mic’d 23.32mm. Biggest pin we have is an 18. But one of the pins fit nicely in the socket so it’s tight.
Make a pin?

I bought my pitbull used with one pin....that fits nothing...lol... so just make a new pin every time I need to lift something new. mounted a piece of 2x6 with angled holes for pins and sleeves on the wall. to store them.
Pins or sleeves for the basic pin sizes are pretty cheap, or at least from Pitbull they are..

Dont need a lathe, to make pins, some bar stock and a grinder could do it easy enough.

Or, use a socket I guess...lol, just cant do it myself.
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Originally Posted by Wolverine View Post
As Wicky pictured, I have to use a 17mm (deep well in my case)socket. The outter diameter of that micíd 23.32mm. Biggest pin we have is an 18. But one of the pins fit nicely in the socket so itís tight.
Good info to know! The socket option is good for in a pinch as well!! Keep that one in my back pocket lol


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Make a pin?

I bought my pitbull used with one pin....that fits nothing...lol... so just make a new pin every time I need to lift something new. mounted a piece of 2x6 with angled holes for pins and sleeves on the wall. to store them.
Pins or sleeves for the basic pin sizes are pretty cheap, or at least from Pitbull they are..

Dont need a lathe, to make pins, some bar stock and a grinder could do it easy enough.

Or, use a socket I guess...lol, just cant do it myself.
Sounds simple enough really 👍🏻👍🏻 Gives me a good reason to buy tools too 😁
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Originally Posted by Wicky View Post

I had to improvise a pin using a 17mm Ĺ" socket.
I just tried this trick on mine. Works better than anything else I ever improvised. Thanks for sharing this tip!
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