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Old 03-08-2007, 01:39 AM
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To add some more info (Or is that confusion?) on oil filters

First and foremost...don't come knocking on my door to sue me if for some unknown reason your 'Hawk explodes because of my post. I generally shoot first and ask questions later.

I work at a small 3 bay car repair garage and decided to look up in our book to see if there was a listing for the Superhawk. We use Atlas brand oil filters, which are produced by Wix. Fairly decent stuff IMHO, not $15 a piece filters, but not Dollar General stuff either. The filter # for the 'Hawks oil filter is M-33, with the long verison being M-36. I know from first hand expeirence that the M-33 and M-36 are used pretty frequently on Honda cars. I have read many times of people using the longer filter with slight modification to the chin protector thing. I cannot personally verify this, but I hope to in the next few days. Some quick specs on the filter:

Thread: M20x1.5
OD: 2-21/32 (67.5)
Length: 2-5/8 (66.7)

Fits: '92-97 Ford, 2000- On Honda, '99 on Infiniti, 94- on Kia, '80 on Mazda, '90-'96 Mercury, '95 on Nissian, '87-94 Subaru automotive, light duty trucks, Honda, Kawasaki, Yamaha motorcycles.

Now obviously, the M-33 filter doesn't fit every engine and model listed above. That's just saying that on those particular cars, one of the engines put in one of their models of cars uses that filter. Don't expect to ask the counter guy for an oil filter for a '92-97 Ford and have it be the right one!!

OK...now that we have some basic stuff covered, onto the cross referencing. There is a metric **** ton of brands I could have gotten, but to ensure my sanity didn't expire today I just browsed through and picked some of the ones I thought would be more common at the local auto-parts stores. If for whatever reason any of you would need a tranny, air, or oil filter cross referenced, let me know.

Mobil - MO4612
Mobil - MO4610 (This is the long version, the M-36)

Napa Gold - 1358
Napa Gold - 1356 (This is the long version, the M-36)

Pennzoil - PZ-37
Pennzoil - PZ-36 (This is the long verison, the M-36. Are you catching onto a pattern here yet? )

Purolator - L14622
Purolator - L14620 (This is the long verison, the M-36)

Wix - 51358
Wix - 51357
Wix - 51356 (This is the long verison, the M-36)

I don't know why exactly Wix has two part #'s for the same filter, but whatever. Again...take this for what it's worth. This thread is definitely NOT something to hold higher than your own common sense. I don't want to be blamed for any blown engines! I read some discussions about if car filters would be OK for the 'Hawks, I really don't see why they wouldn't be. If anyone has any doubt, I'll be "aquiring" a M-33 and M-36 filter from work this weekend when I change out my bikes blood and will be sure to report back. Until then, ride safe, ride strong, and most importantly, ride fast.
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Old 03-08-2007, 03:48 AM
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http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/FilterXRef.html
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But a good one to have


These Oil Filters
have 20 x 1.5mm threads,
14 psi by-pass valve,
anti-drain back valve,
2.3" O.D. gasket
2.5" to 3.5" long.
If you have the room, I recommend the longer filters.
Motorcycle Filters.
None are recommended.

AC Delco PF2135
AMSOil SMF103
Carquest 85358
FRAM PH6017A
Honda 15410-MCJ-000
K&N KN-204, about $13. Metric nut on end for easy removal.
NAPA Gold 1358
Purolator ML16817. Imported, not made by Purolator.
STP SMO 17
WIX 51358
Recommended filters.
All have superior
filtering.

About 2.5 inches long.
Purolator Pure One PL14612, about $6.
Mobil M1-108, about $12.
Made by Champion.
Bosch 3300, about $6.
Made by Champion.

About 3.25 inches long.
Purolator Pure One PL14610, about $6.
Mobil 1 M1-110, about $10.
Made by Champion.
Bosch 3323, about $6.
Made By Champion.
WalMart SuperTech ST7317,
about $2. Made by Champion.
Buy these filters Automobile Filters,
about 2.5 inches long.
AC Delco PF1237
Baldwin B1400
Firestone TF2876
Hastings LF113
NAPA Gold 1365
Purolator L14612
STP S-02876
WalMart SuperTech ST6607
WIX 51365
Automobile Filters,
about 3.25 inches long.
AC Delco PF-2057
Auto Pro 2356
Autopride CF240AP
Baldwin B1402
Carquest 85356
Carquest Red B4620
Casite CF240
Castrol 7317
Champion Labs Ph2867
Defense Filters Dl7317
Deutsch D-370
Federated Filters LF240F
Automobile Filters,
about 3.25 inches long.
Fram Double Guard DG7317
Fram PH7317
Fram Tough Guard TG7317
Fram Xtra Guard XG7317
Group 7 V4610
Group 7 V4620
Hastings LF240
Mighty M4612
Motorcraft Long Life FL-821
Napa FIL1356
Napa Gold 1356
Parts Plus PH2867
Pennzoil PZ-109
Penske 7317
Powerflo SL14610
Powerflo SL14620
Pro Gauge PGO-4620
Pro Tec 164
Promotive PH4610
Pronto PO3593A
Purolator L14610
Service Champ OF-4622
Shell SH48
Shell SH529
Stp S-02867.
Valvoline VO50
Warner PH2867
Wix 51356
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Dude!!!! What a nice job! I thought this was going to be another oil thread! No I'm not gonna tell - I use one of the ones on the list.
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Just a word of note, that link I posted earlier has a comprehensive review of good motorcycle oils as well.
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Purlator L14620

I have been running the Purlator L14620 for a couple of years (after trimming the chin fairing slightly) and have had no problems. Its rated highly and available for about $6.

I also have used Mobil 15W-50 synthetic for many years on all my bikes. When did a leak-down test on my NT650 before I sold it (wish I hadn't) with 60,000+ miles, it measured about 5% or less!
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Damn, and I though my table with oil viscosities was sensory overload....
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Originally Posted by nuhawk
Dude!!!! What a nice job! I thought this was going to be another oil thread! No I'm not gonna tell - I use one of the ones on the list.

Nope..not about oil. At least not this time. I just did a oil change on her yesterday, using the standed filter (Not the longer filter). Everything fit perfect, and topped her off using rotella oil. If you guys ever need a cheap drain pan, use one of the old rotella gallon jugs! I just cut about a 4x6 hole (nothing scientific) on the side of it, set it down on its side and walla! A drain pain that fits under the oil pan perfectly. Note: It is alot less messier if you remember to put the cap back on the bottle. And...since it holds a gallon of oil, it holds just enough to get all the old stuff out! The oil in the bike was just changed when I bought it a few months back, but I was unaware of what kind - so I decided to put in some good blood that has been highly recommended by the forum!
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