mikstr

I sincerely wish you the best.

cheers

harlangto

GM and the "NEW GM" (Government Motors) deserve to go under without any more F'n assistance.
If they couldn't make money when times were good how can anyone think they can make money and payoff the billions they owe US already?
They blame the unions who are only the ones putting all the cheap *** parts upper management is purchasing from 3rd world countries on their branded automobiles.
If they don't succeed this time why not put them on trial like all the other corporate crooks.

I am a Pontiac enthusiast and in fact own a few GTO's from the early 70's - but my last 2 purchases of a GM vehicle ('98 Yukon & '02 Grand Prix) have been a mistake. They don't build them to last much past a 3year lease rate, cheap plastic interiors, faulty brakes, poor mileage, non graded bolts, subpar weatherstripping, etc..

I switched to a Ford truck in 2000 after trading the Yukon and my spouse is trading the GrandPrix for a new Taurus SHO she just ordered.
Due respect for the new Camaro, I really don't think GM will last if they keep the trend of POOR Customer service and long term reliability issues handled.

mikstr

I want to add that the one truly positive aspect of my Malibu experience was my local dealer (at the time), who was absolutely stellar in going to bat for me. Buying a vehicle, as we know, is about more than just the machine, it is also about establishing a relationship with your dealer. In my case, my desire to see good people rewarded (in this case the dealer) could be made to outweigh my desire to see the ****** at GM punished. If you work for a good dealership that supports customers and appreciates their business, I am convinced you will succeed, at least I hope you do, for you (and the people you work with) deserve it.

nothing

hahaha

lazn

Indeed I have been calling GM Government Motors since the first big "loan" (it will never get paid back).

There isn't a vehicle made by GM in the last 20 years that has both caught my interest and been in my price range. They make some nice expensive cars, and boring crap for the common people. Heck, a $19,000 Toyota Camry is more exciting than any GM car priced under 40 grand.

nuhawk

And should always be served cold.

nuhawk

I suggest now there has been another evolutionary step. First we had proud names that became General Motors. Then the government steps in and tells them how and when to comply to pollution controls, allows unions to extract billions of company cash value annually, and ultimately has to be sold with the government buying a $28 billion company for $89 billion. Thus, becoming Government Motors.

The biggest tragedy is nothing in the failed model of business has been eliminated in the new model of business.

So I suggest that the new GM stand for Gremlin Motors. If you think it didn't work a while ago. If you think it was ugly before Just wait. The end is near.

For you guys that work there be heartened by the fact that in the splintering of giants many successful companies are spun off. Imagine Corvette as its own publicly traded stock. Hell, even I would own some of that!

Imagine that you would have enough money to buy the plant that builds the two-seater for Saturn. There's enough money all over this planet for moneyed enthusiasts to go into the mainstream car business.

For the billions poured into the system none of it is about cars. Or trucks, or customers. The drought in employment, wages, foreclosures cast a big shadow on our current leaders.

cmcconkey

After 20 years of owning nothing but GM's (well used ones) ,I was finally in a position to buy an almost new one (with hard earned money). It was not even a year old and almost no miles on it. Turned out to be the worst car I ever owned. Every trip to dealer was a fight . They just didn't want to fix the car. I felt like a sap for being somewhat loyal to them over the years. Then I bought the car I said I'd never own, a Honda. Six years later and problem free. GM you had your chance and blew it. Thanks to the internet cosumers can research products in minutes.

nfbzike

I work for the biggest used car dealership chain in the world. We sell more trailblazers than i think just about anything else. And almost everyone comes back to haunt us. Every single time a trailblazer comes in the door i already know we are gonna spend over $600 on shitty cheaply designed overpriced interior parts that are broken (not by abuse) . Then an hour repainting the stupid radio buttons. Then another hour cutting all 4 rotors which inevitably will be replaced to to delamination. Then im gonna replace the rear parking shoe because its fallen apart and i noticed it when the rotor was off. I work with over 30 techs and EVERY LAST ONE groans when a Gm pulls into there bay. Because they know they are in for a fight. Tell me why a company would build a car for 10+ years with a known defect in the intake gasket design costing consumers millions? (yah im talking to you poor malibu, impala and everything with that peice of **** 3.1 or any variation there of). Because they are shady, They will always be shady. And to go back to what this thread was actually started about, the solstice is a **** box. No matter how great the motor is. The transmission is the widest band thing ive ever driven. By the time your shifting at redline, the car is 1000rpm below horsepower curve and STARVING to accelerate. they are also SUPER plasticy on the inside. Next time your in one grab the trim around the Ebrake handle and pull forward gently. It falls right off, there is nothing that retains it. Ive worked on 3 in the past year and everyone has gone to the front lot and come back after a couple test drives needing over a thousand in body work because the trunk opens on the highway because the roof wasnt closed properly (partly operator error but come on, put in a warning light or at least make it user friendly). This is a line i use constantly at work "seriously the only thing thats gonna save GM is if they buy all the tooling and rights for a 92 honda civic from honda and start making it again" but realisticly they would screw that up

Killemall