Global warming....I call BS!
01-04-2014, 07:56 AM
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as this discussion has so clearly demonstrated, neither side of the debate is above adopting religious fervour, or misleading and misrepresenting facts. I personally have no faith or trust in either side for the reasons stated above; I just hope, as father of a 5 year-old daughter, that we take the right decisions, whatever those may be..... Sadly, the way any discussion on the topic rapidly devolves into name-calling by both sides, who knows what lies ahead....
01-04-2014, 10:25 AM
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01-04-2014, 11:06 AM
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as this discussion has so clearly demonstrated, neither side of the debate is above adopting religious fervour, or misleading and misrepresenting facts. I personally have no faith or trust in either side for the reasons stated above; I just hope, as father of a 5 year-old daughter, that we take the right decisions, whatever those may be..... Sadly, the way any discussion on the topic rapidly devolves into name-calling by both sides, who knows what lies ahead....
But, hey, everything is going to be OK as long as central banks continue to print funny money and politicians keep finding ways to make government bigger and to steal from one group and give to another.
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01-04-2014, 11:13 AM
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01-04-2014, 11:25 AM
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Especially the proven liars at the IPCC and others who promote radical changes in and controls on human behavior, in addition to huge increases in the size and scope of government, to "solve" a problem they can't even prove exists and whose models are invariably wrong.
But, hey, everything is going to be OK as long as central banks continue to print funny money and politicians keep finding ways to make government bigger and to steal from one group and give to another.
But, hey, everything is going to be OK as long as central banks continue to print funny money and politicians keep finding ways to make government bigger and to steal from one group and give to another.
anyhow, my involvement here is done... my quota of boogiemen and conspiracy theorists is full......
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01-04-2014, 12:59 PM
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not sure how many times and ways I can re-phrase that both sides are full of crap and have no legitimacy due to their agenda (there are countless cases of big businesses putting profits before human health, and there are just as many of elitist windbags who think they can dictate right from wrong..... anyone who denies either is brainwashed or brain-dead) most of us mortals don't have the tools and resources to really decipher what is going on, and those who may (notice the word may instead of do.....) are a bunch of liars......
anyhow, my involvement here is done... my quota of boogiemen and conspiracy theorists is full......
anyhow, my involvement here is done... my quota of boogiemen and conspiracy theorists is full......
There is only one truth, however, although conspiracy fact does often cause cognitive dissonance among those unprepared to be honest with themselves.
01-05-2014, 06:27 AM
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If we treat our supposed part in climate change like an emergency there is only upside (clean renewable energy, fuel efficiency, energy independence and world leadership in all the tech that gets us there..). If we ignore it and we're wrong well, were already seeing the downsides emerge (more expensive energy, unpredictable farming seasons, behavior mandates..). I'll choose being a useful idiot over being a useless one.
01-05-2014, 07:05 AM
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The number of Americans who believe in climate change are falling fast, probably due to the e-mail's from the IPCC scientists made public about their concern that the data they were getting did not match the predictions they were making, the revelation that the hockey stick graph that started this whole discussion was imaginary and the fact that many government's want's to use this issue as a vehicle for a massive transfer of wealth from the producing countries to the undeveloped one's for social justice. Let's wait until we have a viable, affordable energy supply before we throw the baby out with the bathwater. If the people pushing this agenda put all the money spent advancing this over the last 35 years on alternative energy research instead of trying to convince the majority we could be a lot closer to a solution.
01-05-2014, 10:06 AM
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If we treat our supposed part in climate change like an emergency there is only upside (clean renewable energy, fuel efficiency, energy independence and world leadership in all the tech that gets us there..). If we ignore it and we're wrong well, were already seeing the downsides emerge (more expensive energy, unpredictable farming seasons, behavior mandates..). I'll choose being a useful idiot over being a useless one.
I prefer not being an idiot at all, but whatever makes you happy.
01-05-2014, 07:13 PM
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Good stuff is always expensive to do. I find it surprising how so many are content with the expense of the crappy stuff we're doing now.
01-06-2014, 03:13 AM
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For what it's worth: Global Warming Fast Facts
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