scooter72

So its another clear and sunny day where I live, and once again its -40C outside....I swear its been 3 weeks like this. Daytime highs of -25C, lows of -40 to -45C, and then add in the windchill....and we get below-50C! I have to say though, it does make me laugh that even though its so cold, life still goes on as usual. Hell, I work for a school division and we don't cancel bus service unless its -45C or lower with the windchill! Only 2 more months before it starts to warm up, and only 3 weeks until I'm on a jetski in Huatulco, Mexico!. So, all you southern folks, feel free to brag about your warm temps, I am jealous.......

Jack Flash

For sure you guys out west have it worst then we have out east. I still do not
believe however, global warming is BS. It's a fact and a reality. Just look at all the crazy weather around the world. Hell they had a snow storm in the middle east a few weeks ago. They hadn't seen snow in about 150 years.

Floods, hurricanes, cyclones, etc are direct results of global warming. It's not just a temperature on the thermometer reality.

Anyway scoot, this is to make you warm and fuzzy inside. Here is what the temp on my heat pump was at 7ish this morning. Bottom digit.

mikstr

Just an old-fashion Canadian winter...... on a positive note, good air density means the snowmobiles are making lots of horsepower

FWIW, I remember waiting for the school bus at -55 C when I was growing up in Northern Ontario... ah, the good old days ........

ren

well Los Angeles got a record low of rain in 2013 and I spent Christmas and New Years in 70 degree plus weather lol so we'll leave the analysis to the experts

killer5280

Well, it's not because you are experiencing a cold Winter, but yes Global Warming, er, anthropogenic Climate Change is indeed BS invented to promote a control freak political agenda and bolstered by outright lies and fabricated data.
There are plenty of useful idiots who genuinely believe it, though.

mikstr

A bit harsh on the phrasing IMO....... As for myself, knowing the political and economic interests that lie on both sides of the argument (elitist foundations vs Big Oil, .....), it's hard to know who's telling the truth as both sides are not above lying and manipulating to promote their interest-driven agenda.... I just hope, for the sake of future generations (ie. my daughter) that if it is true, that something gets done......

7moore7

You just gotta consider who has more to gain by manipulating the data...

And in some ways, the fear of the implications of human induced climate change can cause individuals to seek solace in support for the alternative. Scares the **** out of me, anyway.

High of 72*F here in Phoenix today

msethhunter

So what was the cause of global warming 150 years ago?


The earth goes through cycles. We are in a warming trend. The accurate data hasn't been available for long enough for conclusive results. Are we effecting the earth? Maybe. Can anyone tell from the data we have on our hands? Certainly not. The problem with that is that by the time we actually know, it's going to likely be to late.


http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/fea...rctic-ice.html

scooter72

Wow...didn't think this thread would turn into a climate change debate so fast!. I was only being sarcastic about it, because i'm just tired of it being ***** cold, and would like it to warm up a bit around here. But there is enough data on either sides of the coin to prove or disprove the whole theory, and way to many people manipulating said data for their own agendas...but you cant deny the fact that we've had some crazy weather in the past years all around the world.

Like Mikstr said, I do hope for my kids sake that something good will come out the entire debate, and they can have a world that is still liveable....and he also had another great point....snowmobiles and anything turbocharged do make sick power in this kind of cold, so that does make me a little happier.

CrankenFine

+1, or in other words: "follow the money"

killer5280

Oh, Big Oil is completely on board with the tyrannical "Green" agenda, commonly known as Agenda 21. The only two sides to this issue are "us" and "them" and "them" includes both the elite foundations and the major oil companies (and government of course, or rather the oligarchs who control governments). "Us", of course, is We The Sheeple.
Like I said, there are plenty of useful idiots out there who believe this garbage. In fact they are essential for such nonsense to gain a foothold in public opinion, but the soundly discredited theory that is Climate Change caused by CO2 emissions from human activity is a transparent front for a political agenda to control all human behavior.
This is not meant to minimize real problems with pollution and waste, but currently the biggest polluters are those entities most interested in promoting this agenda and I don't expect that to change when we are so regulated that our bathroom habits are scrutinized.

NHSH

Global warming or not, pumping Co2 and all other unwanted gasses in this rate, not to mention polluting the oceans is just wrong (pissing in your own well) and eventually we as humanity will pay the price one way or another, as one of you put it, by the time we will find out it will be too late.
Just so all of you will be on the same page, the governments will make money either way, all they have to do is sell the next agenda, they never pay for consequences, we do!!!

mdouglas71

Shoot.. my car in colder climates feels like it has a lot more horse power too... I love it.

captainchaos

Yeaaaahhhh I could have told you that as soon as I saw the title...

mikstr

should stick to more neutral topics, like abortion and gun control...... lol

j shizzy wizzy

Global warming/ climate change is a religion. Believe it if you like but there is no science to back it. Its become a useful tool for me to gauge people though, as soon as its mentioned I tend to avoid the (useful) idiot. Meanwhile bureaucrats are taxing and fining us to death with this horseshit and the people cheer! God help us all.

insulinboy