tire wear issues
#1
tire wear issues
I was just wondering if there's something wrong here ? I don't feel there's anything's wrong ,it doesnt act funny up front ,I don't really think that I make that many more right turns than I do left ,but I always get this wear pattern ,even on the last tire .
I'm currently running the Bridgstone battlax BT-002 ,don't really have any other issues with the tire ,handled pretty well in canyons ,but then again I'm not really out there gettin' busy either .
Just wondering if there is some front end issues I need to be concerned with ?
oh yeah ,I guess I should mention that when I got the bike the right fork was pretty much tacoed ,I got a new pipe for it and completely rebuilt it.
I'm currently running the Bridgstone battlax BT-002 ,don't really have any other issues with the tire ,handled pretty well in canyons ,but then again I'm not really out there gettin' busy either .
Just wondering if there is some front end issues I need to be concerned with ?
oh yeah ,I guess I should mention that when I got the bike the right fork was pretty much tacoed ,I got a new pipe for it and completely rebuilt it.
Last edited by dickard37; 04-20-2009 at 10:27 AM.
#2
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Holly crap, you really need to get the steering head cut off and welded backwards, last time I have seen this kind of problem the guy ended up ejected at twice the bike's speed, got all banged up and finally got ran over by it's own bike.
Careful with this thing
Nice mean strips BTW
Careful with this thing
Nice mean strips BTW
Last edited by gboezio; 04-20-2009 at 10:25 AM.
#3
looks like a track tire. the tearing is a bit odd but doesn't look too deep.
is it normal ? NO.
need more data: was this mounted after you rebuilt the forks ? does it feel like your pushing the front end ?
tim
is it normal ? NO.
need more data: was this mounted after you rebuilt the forks ? does it feel like your pushing the front end ?
tim
Last edited by trinc; 04-20-2009 at 11:38 AM.
#4
+1 It looks like a worn out trackday tire to me . When my tires look like that after a trackday ..I know I was doing it right !
#5
Yeah ,I had just bought the tires after the rebuild ,as far as "pushing the front end" , No ,it turns just fine ,both ways .
Today was just too beautiful of a day to not go for a little ride ,and it did kinda feel like the right was a little soft ,kinda like it wanted to lean that way , kinda windy here today so it's hard to say for sure .
It tracks straight though ,doesn't pull to the right or anything .Maybe I just lean farther on right turns .
#6
The only tires I see on street bikes with a wear pattern like that are race take-offs. I'm impressed with the way you've worn the tires to the edges but I'd be very hesitant about using them on the street. You've transformed them into slicks and they aren't safe for street use. I doubt they'd pass tech inspection for a track day. There are a lot of very knowledgeable people on this site who may be of some help. Maybe contacting Bridgestone directly or taking the tire to a shop that prepares race bikes will get you the answer you need. If you've got enough talent and confidence to ride fast enough on the street to cause a wear pattern like the one shown, I doubt that there's anything wrong with your bike.
#8
I knew a guy that rode Palomar on a Gixxer, and he pushed the front end enough to completely tear up the front tire on a regular basis. I don't have the ***** to ride that hard. I don't like to push the front, but my last Qualifier front was worn like a triangle by the time I replaced it (however nowhere near worn to the edges).
#9
Yeah ,I had just bought the tires after the rebuild ,as far as "pushing the front end" , No ,it turns just fine ,both ways .
Today was just too beautiful of a day to not go for a little ride ,and it did kinda feel like the right was a little soft ,kinda like it wanted to lean that way , kinda windy here today so it's hard to say for sure .
It tracks straight though ,doesn't pull to the right or anything .Maybe I just lean farther on right turns .
Today was just too beautiful of a day to not go for a little ride ,and it did kinda feel like the right was a little soft ,kinda like it wanted to lean that way , kinda windy here today so it's hard to say for sure .
It tracks straight though ,doesn't pull to the right or anything .Maybe I just lean farther on right turns .
looking at the tread or lack of it could be coming apart just because the tire is done... and indeed you are pushing the front because the tire has lost some of it's grip. we call this 'going off' ( as a tire wears , and heat cycles, it has less grip ).
i'm amazed that that you didn't feel it ? if you didn't maybe more fork work is needed so you get better feedback.
tim
Last edited by trinc; 04-21-2009 at 09:07 AM.
#11
I totally agree... Get to a track....
If you do that to your tires, there definitely isn't anything wrong with the bike...
You are going into the corner hard and you put the weight forward driving the bike through the corner... That takes skill and confidence... And doing it on the street takes *****, and either a lack of brains/respect for others or of self preservation instincts...
That's what my track tires look like if I'm having a good day...
If you do that to your tires, there definitely isn't anything wrong with the bike...
You are going into the corner hard and you put the weight forward driving the bike through the corner... That takes skill and confidence... And doing it on the street takes *****, and either a lack of brains/respect for others or of self preservation instincts...
That's what my track tires look like if I'm having a good day...
#13
#14
As far i know the BT002 was offered in 3 different compounds. Maybe they sold you the Type4 (soft) and it overheats...this wear looks scary, considered you produced it on a public road. Other than that i firmly believe there is nothing wrong on your bike.
Saludos from Spain
Saludos from Spain
#17
always make sure you check the tire pressure, these rubbers react very sensitive on wrong pressure settings and wear fast
http://www.bridgestone.co.uk/bfe/v/i...005101a10aRCRD
http://www.bridgestone.co.uk/bfe/v/i...005101a10aRCRD
#18
I run brigestone race tires, and that is cold tear. it is bad for the tire but is not going to spit you off without warning. if your using the 002 pro or the older 002's your going to see that without tire warmers the hot pressure on those tires is 30psi so your looking at about 27 cold. now if those are the 002rs which is the street/track version it should not be tearing like that. it should have PRO or RS on the side wall which will tell you what version it is the RS are just made to work at street temps. you see cold tear when you have a soft compound tire delaminating on a cold day, we drop one psi to get more flex in the carcuss to create more heat in the tire but it will still grip well but you have to consider that race tires are designed to work at 175F so at street speeds that is very hard to get to. I would suggest a street/track dual purpose tire the new 016's are dual compound and work really well for track days and canyon fun, but I'm with everyone else bring it to the track it's way more fun
#19
here is the US site http://www.motorcycle-karttires.com/index.aspx
from the site
Care and Use at Low Temperatures
Battlax Ultra-high Performance Tires may crack in the
tread area from impact or deformation at low ambient
temperatures. Handle and store these tires with care.
Additionally, always ride with caution (avoid sudden
acceleration, maximum braking and hard cornering) until
the tires have warmed up to operating temperature,
particularly in low ambient temperature conditions
from the site
Care and Use at Low Temperatures
Battlax Ultra-high Performance Tires may crack in the
tread area from impact or deformation at low ambient
temperatures. Handle and store these tires with care.
Additionally, always ride with caution (avoid sudden
acceleration, maximum braking and hard cornering) until
the tires have warmed up to operating temperature,
particularly in low ambient temperature conditions
#20
I run brigestone race tires, and that is cold tear. it is bad for the tire but is not going to spit you off without warning. if your using the 002 pro or the older 002's your going to see that without tire warmers the hot pressure on those tires is 30psi so your looking at about 27 cold. now if those are the 002rs which is the street/track version it should not be tearing like that. it should have PRO or RS on the side wall which will tell you what version it is the RS are just made to work at street temps. you see cold tear when you have a soft compound tire delaminating on a cold day, we drop one psi to get more flex in the carcuss to create more heat in the tire but it will still grip well but you have to consider that race tires are designed to work at 175F so at street speeds that is very hard to get to. I would suggest a street/track dual purpose tire the new 016's are dual compound and work really well for track days and canyon fun, but I'm with everyone else bring it to the track it's way more fun
Thanks I really appreciate all the feedback I got on this,this forum really kicks *** , and I would really love to take her to a track ,does anyone living in So.Cal. know where I can go thats close ??????????
#21
I looked it up.
Willow Springs is 132 miles from you! Can't get much better than that!
I highly recommend it. Every time I'm on a track, I find it hard to believe that I can write a check for that much fun!
The best thing about it is that it makes you more conservative as a street rider. That is, as long as you get your regular fix. I spent a summer not going to the track and working on my house and ended up in the ditch, getting my yaya's on the street.
Willow Springs is 132 miles from you! Can't get much better than that!
I highly recommend it. Every time I'm on a track, I find it hard to believe that I can write a check for that much fun!
The best thing about it is that it makes you more conservative as a street rider. That is, as long as you get your regular fix. I spent a summer not going to the track and working on my house and ended up in the ditch, getting my yaya's on the street.
#23
this just in from bridgestone
http://roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=36200
http://roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=36200
#24
this just in from bridgestone
http://roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=36200
http://roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=36200
yeah that figures , I just get 'em mounted up (BT-002) and they are already out dated ,,LOL,,
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