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07-30-2013, 10:57 AM
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And I did check both the PDF and my book both only have wiring diagrams for the (firestorm) PDF is Australian, and my manual is European. That explains a lot on that aspect. Designated by a smal (U) and a small (E) at the top of the page. And apparently my bike has either had the DRL circ removed or a different harness installed. Good to know the little tid bits.
07-30-2013, 01:21 PM
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If you have a DOT federal reg to cite that says DRL are required please post it.. I can only find that hard wire head lights are required.
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07-30-2013, 01:29 PM
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Subpart B - Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards
§571.108 Standard No. 108; Lamps, reflective devices, and associated equipment.
Look at Table I-c—Required Lamps and Reflective Devices
You'll see, there is NO REQUIREMENT for motorcycles to have DRL
§571.108 Standard No. 108; Lamps, reflective devices, and associated equipment.
Look at Table I-c—Required Lamps and Reflective Devices
You'll see, there is NO REQUIREMENT for motorcycles to have DRL
07-30-2013, 01:58 PM
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I know my 76 CB550F had headlight and running lights which is why I said 75. Knowing Honda they were probably ahead of the game. In Japan they used to use a variety of running lights and indicators on motorcycles for a variety of reasons alot of it had to do with training but I don't recall he specifics.
Honda is so socially conservative that I'm sure they took the recommendation to be the same as a regulation (think lawyers).
Honda is so socially conservative that I'm sure they took the recommendation to be the same as a regulation (think lawyers).
07-30-2013, 02:54 PM
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Which light/s are calling the running lights. Do you mean that your headlight is wired into the indicators so they are on permanently, obviously not flashing permanently. Or are you referring to what we call the sidelight in the UK which is the small light in the centre above the headlight. 
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07-30-2013, 03:03 PM
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Our front indicators are on all the time, although not wired directly to the headlight (and flash "off" for signaling). Same idea though. And in the U.S. we have our headlight on permanently too. We're not to be trusted to turn it on by ourselves...
07-30-2013, 03:07 PM
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Which light/s are calling the running lights. Do you mean that your headlight is wired into the indicators so they are on permanently, obviously not flashing permanently. Or are you referring to what we call the sidelight in the UK which is the small light in the centre above the headlight.
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In the US and other export markets, Motorcycles in general, and Honda Street bikes specifically since the mid 1970's use the front facing indicator lights (turn signal assembly) as day time running lights.. They have a dual filament bulb. For the VTR, this is a 23 watt filament and a 8 watt filament. Like the head light is hard wired and always on,, so are the 8 watt part of the bulb....this creates day time (but really all the time) running lights... two forward facing amber lights, and the headlight.
07-30-2013, 03:16 PM
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Thanks that makes sense to me now with the third wire. I can confirm that here our indicators have two wires and we only use the indicators to, well...indicate with LOL We do put out headlights on dipped beam during the day. This is not a legal requirement but just something most bikers do from a safety point of view.
Interesting I think we have all learned something here today. It's funny the subtle differences between the US and European models.
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Interesting I think we have all learned something here today. It's funny the subtle differences between the US and European models.
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07-30-2013, 08:50 PM
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To the OP..
Id have to guess you have a short to ground..likely at one of the points you cut wires.. the trick will be, did it damage the cluster.
Go back to each place you cut wires...make sure each one is individually insulated and sealed (heat shrink tubing is cheap and works great for this, found at any auto parts store)
Id have to guess you have a short to ground..likely at one of the points you cut wires.. the trick will be, did it damage the cluster.
Go back to each place you cut wires...make sure each one is individually insulated and sealed (heat shrink tubing is cheap and works great for this, found at any auto parts store)
07-30-2013, 09:10 PM
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Sorry for the not so warm welcome to the site. There are a lot of sourpusses on this site. I'm not quite sure why some of them are here when if everyone just used the search function to find every last question there would be no new searches being it seems most everything has been hashed out at one point or another.
So to your problem, what all does and doesn't work? Does the tach and speedo work? Does the backlighting work? Or is it just the side stand and neutral lights that don't work?
So to your problem, what all does and doesn't work? Does the tach and speedo work? Does the backlighting work? Or is it just the side stand and neutral lights that don't work?
07-31-2013, 06:12 AM
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Thanks that makes sense to me now with the third wire. I can confirm that here our indicators have two wires and we only use the indicators to, well...indicate with LOL We do put out headlights on dipped beam during the day. This is not a legal requirement but just something most bikers do from a safety point of view.
Interesting I think we have all learned something here today. It's funny the subtle differences between the US and European models.
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Interesting I think we have all learned something here today. It's funny the subtle differences between the US and European models.
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Dipped beam = Low beam...
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