Eastern Beaver
#1
Eastern Beaver
I have seen Eastern Beaver referenced here a lot as a source for the plugs and wiring needed to do a decent, clean, long-term swap with a Mosfet r/r. I purchased an r/r on Ebay and needed the plugs, so I checked Eastern Beaver's website for what I needed. Yes, he has it, but here is the rest of the story. Jim Davis, the owner doesn't want to deal with small orders, under $20.00. He states this on his website. I selected the plugs I need and added them to "my cart". The plugs I selected were $19.95 + SH. I then went to check out and my item was in the cart, $19.95 + $997.50 SH = $1017.45 to be charged to my Paypal. Ha ha, Mr. Davis, that's hysterical. Aren't you a comedian! Adding something else to the cart lowered the SH to eight something, but I'm still not amused.
So, I found an alternative.
Contact Jason at Jasonmotoelectrix on E-bay or hamilton2008@wildblue.net e-mail. Jason is VERY responsive on e-mail and sells a universal r/r kit on E-bay with a Shindengen FH012AA r/r +wiring and instructions for $120. (I found this when someone else posted here) I contacted Jason and explained I already had an r/r, I just needed the wiring and plugs. No problem! We made arrangements and my plugs will ship out on Monday. Way to go Jason!
So, I found an alternative.
Contact Jason at Jasonmotoelectrix on E-bay or hamilton2008@wildblue.net e-mail. Jason is VERY responsive on e-mail and sells a universal r/r kit on E-bay with a Shindengen FH012AA r/r +wiring and instructions for $120. (I found this when someone else posted here) I contacted Jason and explained I already had an r/r, I just needed the wiring and plugs. No problem! We made arrangements and my plugs will ship out on Monday. Way to go Jason!
#3
I have seen Eastern Beaver referenced here a lot as a source for the plugs and wiring needed to do a decent, clean, long-term swap with a Mosfet r/r. I purchased an r/r on Ebay and needed the plugs, so I checked Eastern Beaver's website for what I needed. Yes, he has it, but here is the rest of the story. Jim Davis, the owner doesn't want to deal with small orders, under $20.00. He states this on his website. I selected the plugs I need and added them to "my cart". The plugs I selected were $19.95 + SH. I then went to check out and my item was in the cart, $19.95 + $997.50 SH = $1017.45 to be charged to my Paypal. Ha ha, Mr. Davis, that's hysterical. Aren't you a comedian! Adding something else to the cart lowered the SH to eight something, but I'm still not amused.
So, I found an alternative.
Contact Jason at Jasonmotoelectrix on E-bay or hamilton2008@wildblue.net e-mail. Jason is VERY responsive on e-mail and sells a universal r/r kit on E-bay with a Shindengen FH012AA r/r +wiring and instructions for $120. (I found this when someone else posted here) I contacted Jason and explained I already had an r/r, I just needed the wiring and plugs. No problem! We made arrangements and my plugs will ship out on Monday. Way to go Jason!
So, I found an alternative.
Contact Jason at Jasonmotoelectrix on E-bay or hamilton2008@wildblue.net e-mail. Jason is VERY responsive on e-mail and sells a universal r/r kit on E-bay with a Shindengen FH012AA r/r +wiring and instructions for $120. (I found this when someone else posted here) I contacted Jason and explained I already had an r/r, I just needed the wiring and plugs. No problem! We made arrangements and my plugs will ship out on Monday. Way to go Jason!
He's not US based, shipping a sub $20 order to anywhere except locally for him means he's taking a loss... The shipping cost and the shipping material is eating up his profit... At $20, he's basically breaking even... I solved it by ordering 5 sets, and then selling it to other here in Sweden that also wanted to do the same swap... Profitable for everybody involved...
I think that it's fair for him to say that he don't want to operate on a loss, don't you? I guess you would gladly go to work for free?
Good for you that you find another source, but try not to make it out like Jim Davies slighted you, instead give the whole story... Ie you felt it was unfair that he didn't sell you stuff at a loss... Because that's what happened if you felt strongly enough to write a "bad review", right?
#4
Well, I guess if you did read the statement on his website that he didn't want to deal with orders under $20, you also read his explanation to why?
He's not US based, shipping a sub $20 order to anywhere except locally for him means he's taking a loss... The shipping cost and the shipping material is eating up his profit... At $20, he's basically breaking even... I solved it by ordering 5 sets, and then selling it to other here in Sweden that also wanted to do the same swap... Profitable for everybody involved...
I think that it's fair for him to say that he don't want to operate on a loss, don't you? I guess you would gladly go to work for free?
Good for you that you find another source, but try not to make it out like Jim Davies slighted you, instead give the whole story... Ie you felt it was unfair that he didn't sell you stuff at a loss... Because that's what happened if you felt strongly enough to write a "bad review", right?
He's not US based, shipping a sub $20 order to anywhere except locally for him means he's taking a loss... The shipping cost and the shipping material is eating up his profit... At $20, he's basically breaking even... I solved it by ordering 5 sets, and then selling it to other here in Sweden that also wanted to do the same swap... Profitable for everybody involved...
I think that it's fair for him to say that he don't want to operate on a loss, don't you? I guess you would gladly go to work for free?
Good for you that you find another source, but try not to make it out like Jim Davies slighted you, instead give the whole story... Ie you felt it was unfair that he didn't sell you stuff at a loss... Because that's what happened if you felt strongly enough to write a "bad review", right?
What he said...
This thread is more in support of what a straight shooter Jim Davies is as well as a testament to how some can be petty, short sighted spinning an honest and fair business practice into something that appears underhanded.
Yaaa, for another source ...... Still Eastern Beaver is a reliable, honest and knowledgeable supplier of electrical Japanese plugs, connectors and parts.
#5
I don't think you guys are being fair to me, actually.
Reread my post. I stated that Jim doesn't want to deal with orders under $20. I also acknowledged that this was stated on the Eastern Beaver website. Eastern Beaver is not unclear about this. The sight states that orders under $20 will have "high" shipping and handling. That's ok, but $1000 shipping for a $20 order? I don't think that's funny. Would $20 or $30 shipping and handling allow Eastern Beaver not to lose money?
I was not trying to savage Eastern Beaver. I just think that as consumers of the product that Eastern Beaver sells, we should be aware of the fact that an order 5 cents under $20 will get this response from the Eastern Beaver website. I know I could add another 75 cent connector to my cart and the SH would drop - as I also stated in my post. I took the $1000 SH to be an attempt at humor. I just don't think it's funny.
I also wanted to put out the fact that there is another source for the plugs here in the USA.
Reread my post. I stated that Jim doesn't want to deal with orders under $20. I also acknowledged that this was stated on the Eastern Beaver website. Eastern Beaver is not unclear about this. The sight states that orders under $20 will have "high" shipping and handling. That's ok, but $1000 shipping for a $20 order? I don't think that's funny. Would $20 or $30 shipping and handling allow Eastern Beaver not to lose money?
I was not trying to savage Eastern Beaver. I just think that as consumers of the product that Eastern Beaver sells, we should be aware of the fact that an order 5 cents under $20 will get this response from the Eastern Beaver website. I know I could add another 75 cent connector to my cart and the SH would drop - as I also stated in my post. I took the $1000 SH to be an attempt at humor. I just don't think it's funny.
I also wanted to put out the fact that there is another source for the plugs here in the USA.
#7
When I was looking at the Eastern Beaver source for the Furukawa plugs needed for installation of a Mosfet r/r, I called my wife over and showed her what the shipping and handling came to on the site. This morning, I was talking to my wife and told her some of you were unhappy with my post about Eastern Beaver. My son came past and asked her what we were talking about. I overheard my wife answer that I had called out someone on the forum for being a "shyster". I was surprised she used that word. I did not mean to imply anything of the sort about Jim Davis or Eastern Beaver. I don't think Eastern Beaver is dishonest, disreputable or anything else. If that's the way I came across, I apologize. I merely take the $1000 SH issue as bad humor. I understand that Eastern Beaver is in Japan and shipping costs are high. I admire the creativity needed to come up with an internet business model such as Eastern Beaver. For what it's worth, when I sell something on E-bay, I block sales to anywhere outside the USA. It's just more trouble than I want to deal with.
Mostly, I want to get Jasonmotoelectrix on E-bay out there because I liked his responsiveness and he has a product that would be in demand with Super Hawk owners. The entire install kit from Jason is $30 + $5 SH and includes wiring, plugs, an in-line fuse and instructions for a FH012 r/r. If I had been aware of Jasonmotoelectix before I purchased an r/r used from another E-bay seller, I would have gotten the whole kit from Jason which also includes a brand new Shindengen r/r (FH012AA) for $120.
Mostly, I want to get Jasonmotoelectrix on E-bay out there because I liked his responsiveness and he has a product that would be in demand with Super Hawk owners. The entire install kit from Jason is $30 + $5 SH and includes wiring, plugs, an in-line fuse and instructions for a FH012 r/r. If I had been aware of Jasonmotoelectix before I purchased an r/r used from another E-bay seller, I would have gotten the whole kit from Jason which also includes a brand new Shindengen r/r (FH012AA) for $120.
#8
My suggestion is to start a new thread about Jason, and give him positive reviews after you have received his product and installed it.
The way your original post was written did given indication that you were slighting Eastern Beaver. You titled the thread "Eastern Beaver", then went on to talk about a different seller.
Personally, I contacted Jim, told him that a connector had burnt up, and he proceeded to ship me a new one at no cost. So my dealings with the man have been very favorable. YMMV.
Thank you for your last post and clearing things up.
Make a post about Jason and his services with his company title in the Header.
The way your original post was written did given indication that you were slighting Eastern Beaver. You titled the thread "Eastern Beaver", then went on to talk about a different seller.
Personally, I contacted Jim, told him that a connector had burnt up, and he proceeded to ship me a new one at no cost. So my dealings with the man have been very favorable. YMMV.
Thank you for your last post and clearing things up.
Make a post about Jason and his services with his company title in the Header.
#11
I took the Eastern Beaver comments as lighthearted, and I'm sure most others did too. I guess you could have titled it something else, but whatever. You generally only hear from the people you offend anyway.
#12
First off, he never bashed EB he was just pointing out it was a bit ridiculous to put 1000 dollars for shipping. He could at least put a high but actual shipping price on the items if he wanted to ship globally.
Some of the guys on here that are fans of EB took it overboard.
#13
I had the same problem with the site I had to go through the process a few times until it got the shipping amount right. The plugs came in perfectly took over a week whcih I understand. If you are wondering what you need this is it afaik. I will find out when I put it together.
This is what you need and the Cost
Also I am going to be the uncle of a baby girl!
This is what you need and the Cost
Also I am going to be the uncle of a baby girl!
#18
I would never ever use a connector like that, and not on the stock aged one... I'd cut the wire, solder and stick shrinktube on it instead... But that's just me...
#19
I don't think you guys are being fair to me, actually.
Reread my post. I stated that Jim doesn't want to deal with orders under $20. I also acknowledged that this was stated on the Eastern Beaver website. Eastern Beaver is not unclear about this. The sight states that orders under $20 will have "high" shipping and handling. That's ok, but $1000 shipping for a $20 order? I don't think that's funny. Would $20 or $30 shipping and handling allow Eastern Beaver not to lose money?
I was not trying to savage Eastern Beaver. I just think that as consumers of the product that Eastern Beaver sells, we should be aware of the fact that an order 5 cents under $20 will get this response from the Eastern Beaver website. I know I could add another 75 cent connector to my cart and the SH would drop - as I also stated in my post. I took the $1000 SH to be an attempt at humor. I just don't think it's funny.
I also wanted to put out the fact that there is another source for the plugs here in the USA.
Reread my post. I stated that Jim doesn't want to deal with orders under $20. I also acknowledged that this was stated on the Eastern Beaver website. Eastern Beaver is not unclear about this. The sight states that orders under $20 will have "high" shipping and handling. That's ok, but $1000 shipping for a $20 order? I don't think that's funny. Would $20 or $30 shipping and handling allow Eastern Beaver not to lose money?
I was not trying to savage Eastern Beaver. I just think that as consumers of the product that Eastern Beaver sells, we should be aware of the fact that an order 5 cents under $20 will get this response from the Eastern Beaver website. I know I could add another 75 cent connector to my cart and the SH would drop - as I also stated in my post. I took the $1000 SH to be an attempt at humor. I just don't think it's funny.
I also wanted to put out the fact that there is another source for the plugs here in the USA.
I don't think you posted anything wrong. I too didn't like the wierd shipping practice for orders under $20. Why not just charge more shipping? I did order them and some shrink tubing to get over $20, but they will probably not arrive here before the weekend, so i looked for another backup source when i found this:
FURUKAWA CONNECTORS for SHINDENGEN FH012 FH011 FH010 | eBay
Same guy you were talking about. The price is cheaper and its in the US and are the same connectors. I will compare them with the ones from eastern beaver when they arrive.
Remember everyone, this site is for looking out for fellow Superhawk owners, which is what SloBlue was doing.
#20
What he said...
This thread is more in support of what a straight shooter Jim Davies is as well as a testament to how some can be petty, short sighted spinning an honest and fair business practice into something that appears underhanded.
Yaaa, for another source ...... Still Eastern Beaver is a reliable, honest and knowledgeable supplier of electrical Japanese plugs, connectors and parts.
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